Thread: Dual purpose scopes

It's a tricky one alright. Top end mag vs low enough bottom end, maybe zero stop, illumination vs price.
I could be wrong but going ffp and mil might limit your options a bit.
I would look at options like Weiss has. Think it can be 3-15 or 5-25 but would be second hand in your price range. Sightron stac 4-20, Leopold vx5, meopta6 3-18,
The burris mentioned above and the delta scopes @Sarvo does. Might be something in your range

Originally Posted by Remmodel7

It's a tricky one alright. Top end mag vs low enough bottom end, maybe zero stop, illumination vs price.
I could be wrong but going ffp and mil might limit your options a bit.
I would look at options like Weiss has. Think it can be 3-15 or 5-25 but would be second hand in your price range. Sightron stac 4-20, Leopold vx5, meopta6 3-18,
The burris mentioned above and the delta scopes @Sarvo does. Might be something in your range

The Delta Titanium HD 4-24×50 SFP Illuminated - with Interchangeable Turrets - would be perfect

Originally Posted by Sarvo

The Delta Titanium HD 4-24×50 SFP Illuminated - with Interchangeable Turrets - would be perfect

+1 for the Delta I sold my VX 5 to get the Delta taitainum 4x24 for my Tikka .260 it's awesome for long range and still fine up close.
Yes it's a big scope but I've got used to it and we'll worth the money.

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Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP

+1 for the Delta I sold my VX 5 to get the Delta taitainum 4x24 for my Tikka .260 it's awesome for long range and still fine up close.
Yes it's a big scope but I've got used to it and we'll worth the money.

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Looks good mate! Doesn't actually look too big either.

Cheers

Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP

+1 for the Delta I sold my VX 5 to get the Delta taitainum 4x24 for my Tikka .260 it's awesome for long range and still fine up close.
Yes it's a big scope but I've got used to it and we'll worth the money.

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What I like about mine is that its not a long 'scope so the weight seems to sit nicely between my hands. Damn good 'scope.

Originally Posted by Tahr

What I like about mine is that its not a long 'scope so the weight seems to sit nicely between my hands. Damn good 'scope.

Agree with you on that and dam good glass too.
I love the 24x cause as your eyes get older they seem to get weaker like the rest of your body.
12x used to be plenty 10 years ago

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Yes, I did this about 10 years ago, too.

If it's your Go To hunting rifle then you need to prioritise hunting features. ie brand quality, ruggedness, easy to see reticle.

For some daft reason, there were no mid price mil click/mil reticle FFP scopes available then but fortunately I wasn't limited to $1500 and I got a 3-12x50 PM II. It has been a great scope for go to 7mm08 hunting and GPRE field target shooting. The 5-20 ultra compact is virtually the same dimensions and I think would be ideal for tahr hunting but perhaps not so "Go To" for all roundering. If your eyes are young (less than 30 years old) you should be OK without focus (parallax) adjustment and could look at the S&B Klassik 3-12x50 with P3 reticle (FFP & mil dots); I think they are about $2000.

For hunting up to 300m and targets to 700m 12x is plenty, even with dodgy eyes. If you are shooting at multiple targets with time limit, then 8x is better than 12x. Using a 25x S&B or Vortex Razor gives considerably better precision but is very expensive in $$$ and weight is measured in kg not ounces. Only really needed for high level competition or 1000m. Windage adjustment isn't essential but FFP makes shooting a lot easier. Typically windage holds at 500m can be 1-2 mil which would be difficult with SFP. A MOA click/MOA hash reticle would be fine and easier to obtain in an American brand like Leupold, Bushnell or Weaver.

A good condition second hand scope is worth looking at. The Weaver SuperSlam was well thought of a few years ago. If your budget doesn't run to a new Leupold VX5 HD then look at the older 4.5-14 Vx3i or its successor VX3HD or the Swaro Z5 3.5-18 (not so rugged but light and very classy). 4.5x low end is good for hunting if you have the stock set up well for your own face. Modest features in a quality scope will outmatch high spec numbers in a budget build.

No matter how much you spend, you'll need to compromise in some areas. There's some good advice earlier in this thread that will help you make your own choice.

Originally Posted by Sarvo

The Delta Titanium HD 4-24×50 SFP Illuminated - with Interchangeable Turrets - would be perfect

What's the price and weight on one of these @Sarvo?

Originally Posted by Remmodel7

What's the price and weight on one of these @Sarvo?

MilAdjustment: 0.10 Mil
Crossadjustment range (Vertical / Level): 29.5 Mil
Thediameter of the lens: 50 mm
Exitpupil: 7.6 – 2.1 mm
Distancefrom the eye 80 – 98 mm
Parallaxregulation: Side focus (10 m – ∞)
Linearfield of view at 100 m: 9.3 – 1.5 m
Tube:30 mm (1 part)
Length:360 mm
Weight:678 g
Waterresistance: 0.3 kg / cm2
Nitrogenfilling: YES
Warranty:120 months

Have 2 avaliable -
With Interchangeable Turrets in 4A SB reticle $1890
Without Turret kit in in 4A S reticle $1745

@Stocky yeah mate slight over sight on my part and worth consideration.
@Remmodel7 thanks for your input & good info, happy to stretch my budget for the right scope but don't want to go too crazy. Scopes like Arken getting really good reviews for the coin (if you can get one) I'll check out what you and others have suggested, thanks again. @55six @Sarvo @jakewire Cheers!

I have a VX5 3-15x44 firedot duplex. I have used it on my 24" bbl 7mmRM and my 16"bbl 308 at ranges from 10m to 450m. It is a great versatile scope.

Don't overscope your rifle. You will regret it as mucks with balance I find. I have one rifle that does everything from bush bashing as well as being capable out to 500m but majority of shooting is 50-300m. Went with the burris signature hd 2-10 but if I had a 1500 budget I would be looking for a second hand z5, vx5/vx6 etc in the 2-10/12 power range. Have used high power scopes before and even shooting moa targets out to a km i found 15-18 power enough

Originally Posted by superdiver

Don't overscope your rifle. You will regret it as mucks with balance I find. I have one rifle that does everything from bush bashing as well as being capable out to 500m but majority of shooting is 50-300m. Went with the burris signature hd 2-10 but if I had a 1500 budget I would be looking for a second hand z5, vx5/vx6 etc in the 2-10/12 power range. Have used high power scopes before and even shooting moa targets out to a km i found 15-18 power enough

+1, I'm going to borrow the term 'overscope' from now on.

Used to have an S&B PM2 Ultra Short 5-20X50, sold it and got a Leupold Mk4 3.5-10X40, much happier!

Originally Posted by caberslash

+1, I'm going to borrow the term 'overscope' from now on.

Used to have an S&B PM2 Ultra Short 5-20X50, sold it and got a Leupold Mk4 3.5-10X40, much happier!

They’re certainly a bit of a donkey on a hunting rifle


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Cheers sarvo. When funds allow I think that will be top of the list.
@Shot Bro I have a van HD on my all round rifle. 3-18. Picked it up second hand. Think it's a pretty good all round scope. Some people say you only need 12 or 15 top end but I like my mag