Thread: Firearm Registry Data Questions and Answers

Hi team, would accessories such as the hearing protection equipment that threads onto the end be considered an arms item and their purchase an activating circumstance?

Originally Posted by hamishg

Hi team, would accessories such as the hearing protection equipment that threads onto the end be considered an arms item and their purchase an activating circumstance?

Please read post #46 & 47 in this thread

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Please read post #46 & 47 in this thread

So purchasing a magazine or suppressor would not be considered a triggering event from what I understand?
I was also told today from a source who consulted contacts at guncity that private sales of unregistered firearms are not triggering events.
Would like to know if that sounds right or not, but told it's only a triggering event of you buy through a dealer.

I dont believe they would be triggering events if the firearms were not currently onbthe registry and privately traded. Could be wrong and accept all criticism

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Originally Posted by hamishg

Hi team, would accessories such as the hearing protection equipment that threads onto the end be considered an arms item and their purchase an activating circumstance?

Originally Posted by MCCPRO

I dont believe they would be triggering events if the firearms were not currently onbthe registry and privately traded. Could be wrong and accept all criticism

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That's the way I understood it too. How about trademe private sales?

Originally Posted by Old_School

So purchasing a magazine or suppressor would not be considered a triggering event from what I understand?
I was also told today from a source who consulted contacts at guncity that private sales of unregistered firearms are not triggering events.
Would like to know if that sounds right or not, but told it's only a triggering event of you buy through a dealer.

Originally Posted by MCCPRO

I dont believe they would be triggering events if the firearms were not currently onbthe registry and privately traded. Could be wrong and accept all criticism

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Originally Posted by Old_School

That's the way I understood it too. How about trademe private sales?

I won a TradeMe rifle auction on Tuesday night.
Wednesday 21st into the local Police station to get form 43a signed.
The form then had to go to the Tauranga Arms Officer Paul McLennan (friendly guy).
When I was on the phone with him on Thursday 22nd, I asked if the seller receives my 43a form on/after 24 June would it be classed as an activating event. He said 'yes' - that to purchase a rifle from an individual license holder is an activating event for registration.
Now I took that to mean when dealing with an online purchase via form 43a AND when selling via face-to-face private sales.

Thankfully the seller received the 43a form today and dropped the rifle off to be shipped... so no need to be a 'test dummy' for the new online system's bugs and problems.

Originally Posted by Hermitage

I won a TradeMe rifle auction on Tuesday night.
Wednesday 21st into the local Police station to get form 43a signed.
The form then had to go to the Tauranga Arms Officer Paul McLennan (friendly guy).
When I was on the phone with him on Thursday 22nd, I asked if the seller receives my 43a form on/after 24 June would it be classed as an activating event. He said 'yes' - that to purchase a rifle from an individual license holder is an activating event for registration.
Now I took that to mean when dealing with an online purchase via form 43a AND when selling via face-to-face private sales.

Thankfully the seller received the 43a form today and dropped the rifle off to be shipped... so no need to be a 'test dummy' for the new online system's bugs and problems.

What’s going to happen when you pick it up from the dealer ?


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Originally Posted by buzzman

What’s going to happen when you pick it up from the dealer ?


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I dropped into the dealers (H&F) on Wednesday after seeing the Police.
The gun seller (who I know well) just said 'Yip no problem, just bring in your firearm's license when you come to pick it up... I'll give you a phone call when it arrives next week'.
Easy.

Originally Posted by buzzman

What’s going to happen when you pick it up from the dealer ?

In my view the dealer is not selling the firearm so they are only performing the role of a courier.

If you purchase a magazine then that is a triggering event, see post #45

Where did you get that from @Mintie

Originally Posted by 19Badger

If you purchase a magazine then that is a triggering event, see post #45

Where did you get that from @Mintie

That is the wording directly from the "definition" section of the arms act to explain what an arms item is. But as @DPT mentioned it seems like they have come up with a whole separate definition of what an "arms item" is in respect to the register, just for added ambiguity.

Originally Posted by Mintie

That is the wording directly from the "definition" section of the arms act to explain what an arms item is. But as @DPT mentioned it seems like they have come up with a whole separate definition of what an "arms item" is in respect to the register, just for added ambiguity.

Yes exactly.

From speaking to my dealer last week , the firearm has to be entered into their book after the 24th which is an activating event.
Seems still a lot of confusion over this,maybe someone could clarify.

Done around half of mine this morning
The rest will need to be done over the phone as they are antique’s in odd ball caliber’s