Thread: Firearm Registry Data Questions and Answers

Originally Posted by blip

Youd think if they wanted a decent rate of compliance they could send you an email. They sent me a couple prior to the gun grab so no reason why they cant again.

I had an email this morning telling me that because I have endorsed firearms I will have to manually enter them into the new system, the list that they hold on NIA does not have enough information to transfer across to the new system. This of course will itself be a trigger event for the rest of my firearms. I figured that's how it would kick off for me so its not a surprise.

As for the "Major Parts" in my post earlier - All my fault, I skim read it and assumed it included all parts that a firearm relied on to operate but it appears they have outlined it fairly clearly.

Here's what I received on 11 May...

As of 24 June 2023, New Zealand will have a new Firearms Registry. The Arms Amendment Regulations were published on Thursday 11 May and provide the details on how the Registry will work.

If you're a firearms licence holder, you’re required to provide information about your arms items from 24 June 2023.

The Registry will help us make New Zealand safer by making it harder for firearms to fall into the hands of criminals, gangs, and terrorists.

It will also give licence holders more confidence when buying or selling firearms as the Registry will let you know if you're dealing with a current licence holder and if the firearm has been reported stolen.

You must tell us about any arms items in your possession within 5 years.

There will be no charge for registering your arms items.

You have until 24 June 2028 to register your arms items. However, there are activating circumstances where you will need to provide information to the Registry within a shorter time frame. When one of these circumstances happen, we’ll let you know what you need to do. However, it’s up to you to keep your information up to date.

Go to www.firearmssafetyauthority.govt.nz/registry for more information.


Examples of circumstances where you will need to provide information to the Registry within a shorter time frame
Applying for a licence or endorsement
Notifying us of a change of circumstance, such as a change of address
Selling, hiring, purchasing or receiving an arms item
Importing, exporting or manufacturing an arms item
Theft, loss or destruction of an arms item
You are subject to any compliance or enforcement action under the Arms Act.
What needs to be registered
non-prohibited firearms (including Specially Dangerous Airguns)
prohibited firearms
pistols
restricted weapons.
Details needed to register your arms items
Type (rifle, shotgun, etc)
Make
Model
Action
Calibre/gauge
Identifying marking (serial number)
Register online from 24 June 2023
You can quickly and easily register an arms item on our website at any time from 24 June. Just go to www.firearmssafetyauthority.govt.nz and click on MyFirearms. Otherwise, our Registry and Services team will be available by phone to help during business hours.

For more information on Te Tari Pūreke | Firearms Safety Authority and any legislative or regulation changes that may affect you, go to www.firearmssafetyauthority.govt.nz



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Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

I received an email. Check your spam folder!

I would say they haven't got the email address of ALL that have a firearms license

Originally Posted by Mintie

I had an email this morning telling me that because I have endorsed firearms I will have to manually enter them into the new system, the list that they hold on NIA does not have enough information to transfer across to the new system. This of course will itself be a trigger event for the rest of my firearms. I figured that's how it would kick off for me so its not a surprise.

As for the "Major Parts" in my post earlier - All my fault, I skim read it and assumed it included all parts that a firearm relied on to operate but it appears they have outlined it fairly clearly.

I got the same and Andrew Edgecumbe of Antique Arms has issued an email clearing this stellar piece of communication up-



I see this simply as a notice that the register is live and providing clarity about the need to register anything that you hold via a permit to procure/possess when you register your firearms.
There’s no obligation to engage with the register until a triggering/activation event necessitates this.

NOTE: the above interpretation has been confirmed as being correct by the Firearms Safety Authority.

So no need to panic, it's not a demand that you register your firearms forthwith. The important thing to remember is that when you do engage with the register that any restricted, prohibited firearms or pistols that you currently have registered in the existing system will need to be entered in the new system by you.

The email from FSA probably wasn't worded the best and was bound to create confusion. I will try and keep everyone updated and if any confusing messages are generated I will do my best to gain a degree of clarity for everyone.

Regards to all
Andrew Edgcombe"


TL;DR - Register all your endorsed/permitted stuff but this is NOT a triggering event to register all of the rest

Thinking about that one I don't see a "when" this registration of endorsed items must occur - I'm catching up with the Arms Officer in Lower Hutt sometime in the next few days to register a new pistol so will ask him then and post up any result

All as clear as mud, good job plod

Fark. I honestly believed that after Christchurch and the gun grab, all endorsed firearms were well and truly registered, but there you have it.

I added one of mine on there today, not really that difficult, I also had to cal the number re dealer stuff and got a good, well informed clear answer

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

I need a definitive list of what constitutes a ‘major part’.
I know what would be at the top of the list but how far down in size/importance does the list go?

A bit of a whoops on my part - I only read the big writing and skipped over the fine print lower down!
Lesson learnt!

Sure pleased that barrels are excluded - imagine trying to register 10 .22 barrels, machined beautifully, not a serial number to be seen, all in a nice rotating circle - but not yet fitted to the action.

10? that's almost excessive.

Read to 108. Didn't read the rest.,,yet....

Fucken hell...

Shaking my head a wee bit ....

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what about rifles that shoot 22 short, 22 long and 22 lr. which do you put down ?
if i put down 22lr then try to buy a box of 22 short will it get flagged ?

put down .22LR and be done with it.....your 3.5" 12ga will be put down as a 12ga its NO DIFERENT ..... your 357mag wont be called a 38 special and your 44 magnum wont be called a 44 special so why would it be any diferent????

During the confiscation I handed in a .22lr-long-short rifle. I think they used the # of the longest ammo to determine the mag capacity so I'd stick to that same idea

I need to bring this again on the table
I had a chat today on the 0800 firearm safety number and....and asked about arms items
1. the girl who answered knew nothing --- off course
2. spent 29 minutes, the majority on hold
But looked through the arms act 1983 and regulation act 1992.

According to the the arms act 1983 current on the legislation.govt.nz

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/...resel_25_h&p=1
chapter 2 interpretation:

arms item means an item of any of the following classes:
(a) firearms (including prohibited firearms):
(b) magazines (including prohibited magazines):
(c) parts (including prohibited parts):
(d) airguns:
(e) pistols:
(f) restricted weapons:
(g) pistol carbine conversion kits

So, there is a difference between an arm items and major parts
The Firearm safety authority lists the "activating circumstances" on this link and if you open each one of them talks about "arms item" as this is the key word used.
https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....our-arms-items

let's say the importation of parts for a firearm which is one of the activating circumstances the Firearms Safet Authority" says:
"The first time you import an arms item you must register that item within 30 days of the item being released by New Zealand Customs.

You must register all remaining arms items in your possession within 30 days of this activating circumstance."

they do not say importation of a major part. They simply says importation of an arms item.
Ok, you may argue how you can register a pin or a spring or a trigger but I am pretty sure this will be used as an activating circumstance and then they will tell you that you only need to register the firearms,