Thread: Gun Porn, show off your new toys

Originally Posted by res

Picked up another of these on trademe

One shots all it takes

Recent pick-up, some historical firearms.

Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles from WW2:

#1. Series 1 Type 99, 7.7x58mm, made by the Nagoya Arsenal in Aichi. This one has the royal chrysanthemum intact, all matching, and has some battle damage... if only it could talk...
Story goes, this was picked up by a RNZAF ground crewman in the Soloman Islands.



#2 Type 99, Series 34, Toyo Kogyo, Hiroshima Prefecture, chrysanthemum ground off. All parts match.

What's the story behind grinding off the markings?

Originally Posted by Apocalypticaman

Recent pick-up, some historical firearms.

Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles from WW2:

#1. Series 1 Type 99, 7.7x58mm, made by the Nagoya Arsenal in Aichi. This one has the royal chrysanthemum intact, all matching, and has some battle damage... if only it could talk...
Story goes, this was picked up by a RNZAF ground crewman in the Soloman Islands.

Very cool, have you watched M.A.C. videos on the Arisakas? I found them really interesting, particularly as I know next to nothing about the rifles.

Indeed I have, I'm a big fan of the MAC. They make some great content. I'm glad you find them interesting, they're not talked about too often.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

What's the story behind grinding off the markings?

My understanding is that the emblem was ground off surrendered weapons at the end of WW2, likely by order of Gen McArthur. The royal chrysanthemum was the symbol of the Imperial Family, and was ground off by either US troops/Japanese to save face, handing over a rifle with the chrysanthemum intact was considered a 'dishonour' to the emperor. Rifles with them intact are generally accepted to be battlefield pickups.

Originally Posted by Apocalypticaman

Recent pick-up, some historical firearms.

Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles from WW2:

#1. Series 1 Type 99, 7.7x58mm, made by the Nagoya Arsenal in Aichi. This one has the royal chrysanthemum intact, all matching, and has some battle damage... if only it could talk...
Story goes, this was picked up by a RNZAF ground crewman in the Soloman Islands.

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#2 Type 99, Series 34, Toyo Kogyo, Hiroshima Prefecture, chrysanthemum ground off. All parts match.
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Nice, I had a Nagoya Series 7 Type 99 a while back. It had an intact 'Mum. Sold it to fund other toys. Also had a Pre War Type 38 Carbine. Same deal.

Good solid rifles. But ammo is a pain and I'd rather have Krags.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

What's the story behind grinding off the markings?

Upon surrender of the Imperial Government, the chrysanthemum (symbol of the Emperor) was ground off. Anything with the 'mum was property of the Empire and was not to fall into foreign hands. As a sign of respect for the Emperor, Allied Forces allowed them to remove to 'mum, thus not insulting the Royal Family.

Originally Posted by Apocalypticaman

My understanding is that the emblem was ground off surrendered weapons at the end of WW2, likely by order of Gen McArthur. The royal chrysanthemum was the symbol of the Imperial Family, and was ground off by either US troops/Japanese to save face, handing over a rifle with the chrysanthemum intact was considered a 'dishonour' to the emperor. Rifles with them intact are generally accepted to be battlefield pickups.

The MUM was also ground off when a weapon was rotated out of service and onto training etc to signify it no longer serves the emperor. Another variation to this is circles stamped on the edges of the petals.

Originally Posted by Miami_JBT

Nice, I had a Nagoya Series 7 Type 99 a while back. It had an intact 'Mum. Sold it to fund other toys. Also had a Pre War Type 38 Carbine. Same deal.

Good solid rifles. But ammo is a pain and I'd rather have Krags.

You can always reload for them

Originally Posted by Apocalypticaman

You can always reload for them

Finding brass alone was a pain. I have more fun with my Krags, M1 Garands, M1903s, M1917s, and Enfields.

Can't find any pics of my Type 99. Here was my Type 38.

Are you in the US or NZ? Type 99's are pretty hard to get in NZ, US they are plentiful.
Brass has been very easy to find here, have around 300 cases.

Originally Posted by Apocalypticaman

Are you in the US or NZ? Type 99's are pretty hard to get in NZ, US they are plentiful.
Brass has been very easy to find here, have around 300 cases.

Tallahassee, Florida USA.

I'm just getting into longer range shooting, and I hear everyone talking about come ups and adjusting for elavation, canted rails etc.

So I've had a play with my rifle and think it's ready to go.



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