Thread: H & K sl8-6

Originally Posted by Bill999

then get a free ecat if it ever happens.

a few of those r15s on the predator forum over in the states shot superbly, and remington do make good barrels
there reputation isnt that great compared with the other manufacturers and there price is similar

I would have happily baught one when I first saw them, I ended up with a RRA which aparently is better. Its been years since iv seen a remmy so I cant really rember what they look like finish wise

I have had both a RRA and a colt sitting on my lap at the same time, both unfired.
I couldnt see what the extra 2000 for the colt got you. the rra looked just as good.

you dont need to have them side by side to a Norinco to see how crap they are. even the Nea falls short in this aspect, its just the finish the factory decides on.

You can't see it because it is in the material of the rifle. Colt uses high quality, true mil spec components and testing protocols in their rifles, RRA generally doesn't. I have both so I'm not biased either way.

its a matter of trying a whole bunch of them - and as long as you follow some guidelines/advice from people who have used them (a lot) like what is listed back in this post

Thats what I'm going to do, try, listen and choose something mid range that I can build on - at least get the base right

The overall answer is called BRD I think

consider 6.8 SPC more grunt than the pussy 223

Originally Posted by PTK

consider 6.8 SPC more grunt than the pussy 223

Also expensive ammo, harder to find parts/mags, whoops I fired 10 rounds and can only find 3 cases there goes $15

do you think the colt is worth the extra asked bevis?

Originally Posted by Bill999

do you think the colt is worth the extra asked bevis?

Depends what you want. If you want guaranteed quality of your bolt and barrel then yes. The retarded thing is, rifles of equal quality to Colt sell for the same or less than hobby guns in the US. It really makes no sense to buy a DPMS bolt for example when you can get a DD for slightly more, or the same. I bought a DPMS bolt recently, only because I couldn't get what I wanted. It's redundant now anyway so will end up in the spare parts bin.

Originally Posted by Beavis

The retarded thing is, rifles of equal quality to Colt sell for the same or less than hobby guns in the US. It really makes no sense to buy a DPMS bolt for example when you can get a DD for slightly more, or the same.

Except no-one imports them here, just the bargain rifles

Originally Posted by gimp

Except no-one imports them here, just the bargain rifles

They come in in dribs and drabs, usually just an upper, which is the most important bit anyway

Originally Posted by gimp

Except no-one imports them here, just the bargain rifles

We can get quite a range of the upmarket brands... but you will need E-Cat licence and a hand in. PM me for the brands.
We also have access to some of the unusual such as the DRD Paratus - not cheap though.

In saying that most of the less significant parts on my latest build are DPMS

But I don't get why people don't import them on the excuse of "well no-one would buy them" when they don't really cost much more than a non-milspec whatever rifle in the USA, and often have better features like nice free float handguards instead of clamshells, middy gas on 16" instead of carbine, 1:7" instead of 1:9", different barrel profiles/materials etc as well as the quality control + mil spec

But the roll mark is the only difference

Soooo thought for the day, if people were buying shit AR's at $5k+ then why isnt anybody catering to that cashed up AR buyer from just last year and carrying a heap of JP / Noveske sexed up race guns then?

Talk about shit Ar's I remember back in the day a shop owner in Wellington got seriously pissy when I suggested that his Norinco lower + random collection of second hand spare parts build probably wasnt a fair swap for my SL8 + $2K, he reconed I was "wasting his time".... yeah??

My overall opinion is - buy a DPMS, Bushmaster, RRA or whatever. Do some research and decide what level of quality you want - but bear in mind, "fit and finish" isn't necessarily an indication of true quality when it comes to these rifles. It is nice to have a gun that looks and feels pretty sure. Most low grade AR's will serve Kiwi shooters ok. It's just not really my preference.

I'd buy the fuck out of a factory Noveske, Colt, Daniel Defense, BCM, etc if it had the features that I wanted



Noveske are kinda $rape though


It's no different to buying a Sako or a Benelli


Why buy a Benelli when you can get a Gun City 870!!?