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    That's what happened to my rossi also. That tab is pretty small, easy to see how they break. I had Dean Maisey fix it, I think he made a new part.
    He might be able to give you some info on it

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    Here is the broken bit
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    It should look something like this
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    I lightly prepped it and built it up using 507t toolsteel making sure to penetrate all the way threw into the hole to provide as large as possible dilution area for the dissimilar metals.
    Now iv got to clean it up and shape it.
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    The locking peice it engages only has a very small notch hence the pissy little tab.
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    I'm thinking I will open out this notch half a mm or so to enable the tab to be a bit beefier. At first glance i cant see a problem with this but will have to look further obviously.

    Then onto why it broke it in the first place, in theory there should be no load on that tab during firing unless the angles on the locking piece and barrel are creating thrust. The locking piece has obviously been on a stone and im picking is the cause
    Its still nice and tight when closed so hopefully I can remedy this without having to build it up and start from scratch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    My Dads single shot 308 has always had problems with opening when firing.
    His "gunsmith" mate has had it for a year or so to fix that and shorten/suppress it and mount a scope.
    So I thought id have a play at making some subs for it
    Shot one opened
    Shot two opened
    Shot three failed to fire(very light firing pin strike) closed recocked and fired
    Shot 4 fired stayed closed and the open button is flopping round doing nothing.

    How do I open it and then sort out its issues. Out with the pin punches?
    There is no help for these pieces of shit

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    Neither does 1872 posts
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    Update couldnt be arsed shaping the opening lever tonight, maybe tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Update couldnt be arsed shaping the opening lever tonight, maybe tomorrow
    seen a couple of these little things in stirling sports today can they look good enough, never had a fiddle with it tho, was the new rem700 mountian rifle in there to, with its spindly little tube haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by tui_man2 View Post
    seen a couple of these little things in stirling sports today can they look good enough, never had a fiddle with it tho, was the new rem700 mountian rifle in there to, with its spindly little tube haha
    Shes a budget rifle and it shows Abe, still no reason why it shouldn't function tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Shes a budget rifle and it shows Abe, still no reason why it shouldn't function tho.
    they had a 243? looked quite tidy but way busy chasing the you fella around as he was doing the bolt, they have a bit of stuff in there now an some sharp prices to boot

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    Quote Originally Posted by tui_man2 View Post
    they had a 243? looked quite tidy but way busy chasing the you fella around as he was doing the bolt, they have a bit of stuff in there now an some sharp prices to boot
    Yep beats the big green store
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    Shaped up the lever with a fine cutting wheel and a quality small burr in a dremel(not the shit that comes with a dremel which is only marginally better than the shit that comes with a dremel copy)
    When I was getting close I lined up by eye with the holes on the outside of the action.
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    I also opened the notch in the locking piece to allow a beefier tab(half a mm)
    When getting close I dropped pins in on the outside of action to check operation and went to wet and dry round a small file.
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    Better than new.
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    Once I actually thought about how it had to go together ( I just knocked it apart) what Muzza had said about pins became obvious and I cut the shank off a new 5mm drill bit as a "slave pin".......... Necessary to assemble parts under spring tension before putting into action.
    locking piece and firing pin thingie assembled on dill bit butt.
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    The whole action went together a piece of piss, trigger and associated springs,levers etc took a couple of goes till i worked out to tape the trigger in the fired position. then all good

    Fiddled with a bit making sure it all worked closed it firmly on a sub and fired it into a block of wood

    Further testing with sub and full power ammo will have to wait. ( full power ammo in shop after hours probably not a good idea! )
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    ok just fired off a few subs and they were fine. fired some factory 150gr and they all opened the action.

    looks like it going to be out with the bearing blue and stone to get more engagement and less angle on the locking peice
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    Update, fired 50 rounds threw it this evening with zero dead mans click and zero opening on fireing YAY!

    I had gone down the bearing blue and stone route on the locking piece intill the locking piece fully engaged leaving the triger group out each time I trial fitted so I could see whats going on. sorry no pics bloody phone I know I took them but they arnt there.

    Not having access to a range this evening I went bush to test.

    Lying in the dirt with a bipod and my hand as a rear bag,Rapid fire in rapidly failing light with a shit fixed 3x scope I resighted after remounting the rail that had come loose fitted by NOT ME

    Factory fed 150 went 1.5-2" at a hundy yards........good enough for its intended use

    90gr xtp subsonic went around a inch @ 50y

    130 barnesTTSX with no load development whatsoever (just dropped a grain from my Sakos load) and a plucked out of thin air seating depth produced 6x 3 shot groups all under a inch at 100y averageing around .8

    The shooting crony averaged 3020fps for the barnes 2650 for the fed and 1020 for the subs out of the 18" barrel

    The barnes is a bit hot really but it shoots so im loading up some more and giving it back to the old man.

    This is 3 of the barnes groups(scope wasnt doing what it was told) shot in shit light with a fixed 3x off the ground with no bags rapid fire.

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    Rossies are shit there is no hope for them
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    Loads for .308win - XTP subs and Barnes TTSX

    [QUOTE=veitnamcam;44103]Update, fired 50 rounds threw it this evening with zero dead mans click and zero opening on fireing YAY!

    I had gone down the bearing blue and stone route on the locking piece intill the locking piece fully engaged leaving the triger group out each time I trial fitted so I could see whats going on. sorry no pics bloody phone I know I took them but they arnt there.

    Not having access to a range this evening I went bush to test.

    Lying in the dirt with a bipod and my hand as a rear bag,Rapid fire in rapidly failing light with a shit fixed 3x scope I resighted after remounting the rail that had come loose fitted by NOT ME

    Factory fed 150 went 1.5-2" at a hundy yards........good enough for its intended use

    90gr xtp subsonic went around a inch @ 50y

    130 barnesTTSX with no load development whatsoever (just dropped a grain from my Sakos load) and a plucked out of thin air seating depth produced 6x 3 shot groups all under a inch at 100y averageing around .8

    The shooting crony averaged 3020fps for the barnes 2650 for the fed and 1020 for the subs out of the 18" barrel

    The barnes is a bit hot really but it shoots so im loading up some more and giving it back to the old man.

    This is 3 of the barnes groups(scope wasnt doing what it was told) shot in shit light with a fixed 3x off the ground with no bags rapid fire.



    Hi, old thread I know, but after being away from the game for awhile, I'm looking at some new reloads for my .308win Handi rifle, specifically some subsonic (and supersonic) XTP 90g and 130g Barnes TTSX - any chance you recall what powders and weights you were loading?

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    [QUOTE=bjp;1572999]
    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Update, fired 50 rounds threw it this evening with zero dead mans click and zero opening on fireing YAY!

    I had gone down the bearing blue and stone route on the locking piece intill the locking piece fully engaged leaving the triger group out each time I trial fitted so I could see whats going on. sorry no pics bloody phone I know I took them but they arnt there.

    Not having access to a range this evening I went bush to test.

    Lying in the dirt with a bipod and my hand as a rear bag,Rapid fire in rapidly failing light with a shit fixed 3x scope I resighted after remounting the rail that had come loose fitted by NOT ME

    Factory fed 150 went 1.5-2" at a hundy yards........good enough for its intended use

    90gr xtp subsonic went around a inch @ 50y

    130 barnesTTSX with no load development whatsoever (just dropped a grain from my Sakos load) and a plucked out of thin air seating depth produced 6x 3 shot groups all under a inch at 100y averageing around .8

    The shooting crony averaged 3020fps for the barnes 2650 for the fed and 1020 for the subs out of the 18" barrel

    The barnes is a bit hot really but it shoots so im loading up some more and giving it back to the old man.

    This is 3 of the barnes groups(scope wasnt doing what it was told) shot in shit light with a fixed 3x off the ground with no bags rapid fire.
    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post


    Hi, old thread I know, but after being away from the game for awhile, I'm looking at some new reloads for my .308win Handi rifle, specifically some subsonic (and supersonic) XTP 90g and 130g Barnes TTSX - any chance you recall what powders and weights you were loading?
    Trailboss for the subs and I was using 2208 for the ttsx as it's what I had but 2206h or h335 are better options as 2208 is heavily compressed
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    [QUOTE=veitnamcam;1580263]
    Quote Originally Posted by bjp View Post
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    Trailboss for the subs and I was using 2208 for the ttsx as it's what I had but 2206h or h335 are better options as 2208 is heavily compressed
    Is this the rifle that ROKTOY had if so I have it now.
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