Thread: I think we are about to get F******

I thought this was a politics free area

The less politics the better please

i read that exact statement about 30 seconds ago and think thats a wise idea.

The thing that pisses me off is that I can go overseas and buy NZ product / produce cheaper than I can in NZ

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Yep Labour also support this.

Unfortunately many sports goods retailers do the same.. screw us, this was our only out. It's like going back to the 1980s and protectionism. The shittiest thing is the $56 or so charge they whack on on top of the GST to pay more inspectors... Retailers are also getting screwed by their ridiculous rents, some of the highest in the world. The thing is, all anyone other than the shop owner and middlemen make in minimum wage as we don't make anything here anymore. I would feel different if these were damaging NZ manufacturing. They want it all, highest margins on stuff made in China. We forget all the jobs these companies took away when they moved overseas.

I will just have to get stuff like scopes sent to oz and pick it up. Or bring in larger quantities to offset the inspection charge.

Screwwww them all

We honestly have the highest rents in the world? people in Japan sleep in a drawer because space is so expensive?
No I haven't been to Japan but do know people who have and it is not even the most densly populated place on earth ?

Whoa guys you need roads and infrastructure and all the things that give you the great life you have in NZ. Nothing comes back to NZ when you buy over the net and give all the dosh to a no name don't care about NZ overseas!!! Support local business and keep people in employment. It certainly ain't a perfect system, but I'm not staving,I have my healthcare, there's plenty to keep me busy and give me coin in my pocket, I have my freedom and my great family and lifestyle. It could be better, but it could be a bloody sight worse!!

Yep I'm with you @Maca49. Client spent 10 k on a genset I wanted 18 for . Mine did actually have a real Cummins engine mind you Arrived from China wouldn't even run
Then the expectation was we d go fix it. No way F off. It's quietly turning into rust in the spot they delivered it Smokes like bastard glazed bores no oil pressure. Rude yep I know but honestly
I ain't fixing that crap !
Kiwis are right into importing their own stuff go for it . Just research it properly as some shit that turns up ain't even fit for purpose and wasn't when it went on the boat. Cheap equals shit!!

Originally Posted by Happy

Yep I'm with you @Maca49. Client spent 10 k on a genset I wanted 18 for . Mine did actually have a real Cummins engine mind you Arrived from China wouldn't even run
Then the expectation was we d go fix it. No way F off. It's quietly turning into rust in the spot they delivered it Smokes like bastard glazed bores no oil pressure. Rude yep I know but honestly
I ain't fixing that crap !
Kiwis are right into importing their own stuff go for it . Just research it properly as some shit that turns up ain't even fit for purpose and wasn't when it went on the boat. Cheap equals shit!!

I think that happens more than people think and at the end of the day it ends up costing them a lot more......the govt would be happy thou because I'm sure he would have paid GST

Originally Posted by screamO

I think that happens more than people think and at the end of the day it ends up costing them a lot more......the govt would be happy thou because I'm sure he would have paid GST

He paid total price to some New York bank before it left China. Key warning that he didn't listen to were the emails asking what colour he wanted it in. Me telling him we only offered Cummins Yellow and the reasons why I think he maybe now understands but I doubt it
The colour ha ha he shoulda said nipple pink !!

Yep @Happy, dicks importing non compliant machinery then wanting me to modify it and accept responsibility for it when I do! Should be far more boarder control on the crap being dumped here. I did a 105 kva gen set a couple of months ago, first supplier provided a cheap and cheerful knock off at an inflated price. It did match so got sent back. Pisses me off the crap I see and the arguments when we charge accordingly to repair. There's some " good " brand power tools out there that are just shit as well! Great marketing companies ripping like there's no tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Happy

He paid total price to some New York bank before it left China. Key warning that he didn't listen to were the emails asking what colour he wanted it in. Me telling him we only offered Cummins Yellow and the reasons why I think he maybe now understands but I doubt it
The colour ha ha he shoulda said nipple pink !!

So you Cummins Yellow huh?

Matt black with no stickers but costs only $2.50 incl Grab Snatch and Take Twice

Woah i think this has gone way off subject. we are talking about stuff under $400 (including postage). Totally agree with buying quality. The stuff most people import is the same Chinese S*** (including clothes) and specialist bits and pieces that retailers want double or tipple the money for here.

It's not about the politics and I don't think its about the retailer, I'll try and explain my thoughts.

Me and the cook are both PAYE workers....we effectively pay in PAYE enough to pay a Senior teachers wage in a Primary school.....and more.....then there's the GST, and the tax on a tax for petrol, diesel..... Nothing to offset tax against, and yes, we've had rentals.
I understand about roads, health etc and the cost. I always give a retailers a chance to sharpen their pencil and a tradesman the opportunity of a cash job....remember it's my hard earned cash I'm spending.
I'll listen to the wailing from those who preach to me from the high ground about buying offshore, cash jobs etc, if they can swear they've never offered or done a cashy, or bought something off eBay, Deal Extreme etc.
This is the 21st century folks, and I'm fucked if Im going to take it from behind when I can save my self perhaps hundreds of dollars on the Internet or by getting a cash job done.
The Internet, with ebay at our fingertips has shown us what's out there,and how much we can save, and then there's the offshore retailers that'll ship internationally, and even agencies that'll buy something for you and have it shipped.
It's not the 60's anymore.
I can see what a certain brands complete range is, not just what the agency holder thinks i need, and if he or the retailer is too tired to get it for me it'll be on my doorstep in 10 days.
If retailers are finding it hard, they're being undercut by one of their own, The Warehouse.
How many family businesses shut down when they moved into town?

I think some of the blame for costs here in NZ lie with the importers and distributors., but the retailer takes the heat with High St. or Mall rents.
In the meantime I'll shop wherever I can and try and get the best deal for me and mine.

Good example, a Samsonite travel suitcase, with 4 castors on one end, called 'spinners'..... $759 retail here.
$NZ245 landed here ex eBay, free international shipping, takes 3 weeks, genuine item.....
I work too hard for my money to cop that shit.

Rant over, peace, out.
B

Originally Posted by Maca49

There's some " good " brand power tools out there that are just shit as well!

Which ones? I always liked the Hitachi stuff in my brickie days, hopefully they haven't turned to crap.