Thread: It's called a carbine, not a bush pig.

Originally Posted by Tahr

It's part of the bull shit culture. Anyway, most so called "bush pigs" never go bush hunting their entire lives. It's a fad more than a necessity.

No one called a Model 7 with a 18/20" barrel a bush pig when they were introduced. We just said that they were handy light little rifles that didnt get hung up and bash trees so much. Most people ignored them all together and continued to get good tallies hunting in the trees with their 27" barrelled 303's. God knows how they did it.

The latest trend is to say or write "public land" as much and often as you can. Apparently that makes you a better hunter, and those who don't, less so.
It seems that hunting public land with a bush pig (or a "long range rig") can be a climactic event - especially if you shoot a deer from a "blind" and then do a "recovery" and butcher the animal using various gadgets from a "kill kit". FFS.

Im going to die as a bitter old man and be happy doing it.

You forgot about the bit where you need to punch up through the scrub

And the silence descending after the helo

Originally Posted by John Duxbury

And the silence descending after the helo

I understand that one.

That first moment of silence after the chopper leaves. No more contact with or reminders of civilisation. A moment to think of the possibilities now before you. The hope of a good experience just before the actual work to achieve it starts.

Bush pigs with dialup scopes though, how naff!

Bush pig is gay as fuk. Ill just call mine a remington mohawk

Call it what you want.
Mention “bushpig” to any NZ hunter, and they know what you’re talking about.

Originally Posted by whanahuia

John Duxbury

And the silence descending after the helo


I understand that one.

That first moment of silence after the chopper leaves. No more contact with or reminders of civilisation. A moment to think of the possibilities now before you. The hope of a good experience just before the actual work to achieve it starts.

Bush pigs with dialup scopes though, how naff!

Its the first line of every article ever published in NZ Hunter. But they are called helos now, not choppers. That's how you transport your bushpig around, in a helo. Like the Marine Corps.

Originally Posted by Missalot

Would ‘chode’ not do the same thing?

“Chode” is the term my partner uses to refer to her ex husband’s baby maker


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Carbines they were, and are, but screw a suppressor on the end of it and it looks like a pigs snout from front on. So I can see how the slang term came about.
What's the difference between a traditional Bush Pig and a Honda 50 step-through ?
Nothing.... they're both fun to ride until your mates catch you doing it.

Originally Posted by John Duxbury

Its the first line of every article ever published in NZ Hunter. But they are called helos now, not choppers. That's how you transport your bushpig around, in a helo. Like the Marine Corps.

You might be right. Too be fair I stopped reading them many years ago.

"Bush pigs" are just specific sub-set of carbines. It's not a great name, but we all sure as hell know what it means.

Okay, we seem to be a bit split on the term "Bushpig" what about the term "glassing".

I'm guilty of this one, get to a good vantage point, get set up and do some glassing. Probably a more suitable term would be "looking".

Your definition of glassing fits with mine. Again it has a specific meaning in our kiwi hunting vernacular and is a sub-set all the things one could describe as looking. Even just the phase "looking for a deer" could mean bunch of different activities. I reckon we'd all agree with your definition of glassing to mean sit somewhere with a view and look for deer with a pair of binos.

For extra gayness points do any of you name your bush pigs?

Originally Posted by blip

For extra gayness points do any of you name your bush pigs?

I call mine William

Jeez this thread really got everyone going aye?!?

It’s an interesting thing about human nature, that every generation before the current one believes that the current ‘young generation’ are a bunch of fuck-ups on a strange trajectory, and aren’t anywhere near as sorted as the the previous. ‘Back in my day’ ‘the youngsters these days’ and all that B-S. Reality is that you ‘more experienced folk are no different to the current lot. Your brand new 1960’s Sako vixen or forester was a whole lot more advanced and long range capable than the .303s that the old guard were using. Those boys would have said the same thing about you- ‘what do you need a variable scope for sonny? 4x like on my old 3-0 is all you need! And don’t you know that those new fangled variables are unreliable?’

So someone came up with a pop culture term for a rifle setup, that was essentially pioneered in NZ? Cool. Who cares what it is, the important thing is that they’ve taken off for good reason. We have a generation of hunters (and shooters) that are far more educated on rifles and ballistics than ever before. They’ll be less likely to need hearing aids in their old age, and with their ‘fancy new gear’ will be able to hit those distant deer that (at the current time) need to be shot. I personally can’t see an issue.

PS the Duleys called it a Bushpig because with a suppressor right up against the stock, the rifle had a short stubby snout- like a pig. And because they were primarily developed for short range work in the bush - Bushpig.