Thread: Kiwi made Howa mini ultralight chassis a reality?

300 Blackout doing what it does best.. night opp's at its tastiest..

@Wingman, unfortunately missed out on your last run of Elude's, but threw my money down on one from your next batch.

I thought I could handle an ETA of 'a couple of months'.
2 weeks in, and I feel like I have waited 2 years

Is there any update on the ETA or a more firm timeframe ?

Originally Posted by kiwi-adam

@Wingman, unfortunately missed out on your last run of Elude's, but threw my money down on one from your next batch.

I thought I could handle an ETA of 'a couple of months'.
2 weeks in, and I feel like I have waited 2 years

Is there any update on the ETA or a more firm timeframe ?

Patience youngling, good things come to those who wait.

Chop chop WingDaddy!

Originally Posted by kiwi-adam

@Wingman, unfortunately missed out on your last run of Elude's, but threw my money down on one from your next batch.

I thought I could handle an ETA of 'a couple of months'.
2 weeks in, and I feel like I have waited 2 years

Is there any update on the ETA or a more firm timeframe ?

The chassis are out of my hands and in the hands of my very capable cnc guy so intil he finishes the second batch and they go to anodizing I wont have any further updates. Once they arrive to me for assembling and carbon fiber work I will fit them up to the list of custom build we currently have pre sold. If you have a complete build ordered they are well on their way to being done now so ready to just drop in the chassis once they arrive.
There will also be bare chassis available to those of you that want to do your own builds.
We will also have full stock of howa minis in all chamberings including 6mm ARC In 2-3 weeks.
.450 Bushmaster has been discontinued by Howa so if you had been considering one get in now as there are only 2 or 3 left in NZ stock.

@Wingman, thank you for the update!
In all honesty, I just wanted to revive this Thread!

It had been awesome seeing everyone elses Eludes/Builds and then all of a sudden the sharing stopped.

Think Dave was going to give me a heads up in advance of Chassis turning up, so I could drop the Grendel in for some minor tweaks and potentially have it all ready to drop in once Chassis arrives.

Originally Posted by Wingman

Hey mate, you miss understand what I said.. I'm comparing 6mm offerings (6mm ARC 6ppc 6x45 etc) in the limited mag length howa mini rifle that these chassis are designed for... apple's and oranges comparing a 6mm Creedmore to a 12.5" 6.5 Grandel.
The 12.5 grendel gets just under 2300fps with BM8208.
To state the obvious at this point, a 12.5" 6mm ARC shooting 108s doesnt come close to a 6.5 Grendel shooting 123gr.
There is a cross over point where most of the howa mini chamberings alighn, some flatter shooting and some harder hitting but I am a speaking from a longer range carried energy point of view. Maybe I should have made that more transparent. I have also had better luck with the 6.5 match bullets over the 6mm match bullets when it comes to 100% energy dump on animals with no pass through. So although the custom loaded 12.5" 6mm a has a little more muzzle velocity (2360fps) than the 6.5mm (2290fps) it doesn't kill as well as the grendel in my experience.
As you well know I do enjoy a longer shot so this is how I tend to trade these things off against each other but either cartridge is as good as a full length .223rem at more moderate hunting ranges.

Just to expand on this comment, a question to those of you that are running these short barreled minis. Projectile/powder choices that you have found effective??
I’m a fair while away before I start reloading for mine but will quietly stock up on components over this year. Picked up a bag of Starline brass today at DeltaMikes and they have a good stock of 123gn ELD-M’s as well as a few boxes of 123gn SST’s if they are good choices to run in the 12.5” barrel?

Cheers, Sidetrack

I run the 300blk in the night ops deer pic. Not a 6.5 but as a data point, 10.5" barrel (longer butt tube to keep total length all good), 110vmax with 20.5gn W296 in ADI case with CCI400 primer. avg velocity about 2250fps. They were loaded for the 16" barrel and were doing 2400fps. Surprisingly not very noisy, quiet enough that I don't think I will continue to load subs for it. I haven't done any load development with the short barrel yet as the rounds I had kicking about were reasonably accurate. Head shot on that deer was effective. Not sure how great it would be with the traditional rush rush rush shoot it somewhere around the front leg shot. Probably not very.

@Wingman, did you ever develop a bag rider for the chassis?

Yes.. sub 10 grams carbon with a titanium capscrew and fits in to the stocks accessory port.

What sort of scope is that on there wingman??

Originally Posted by tac a1

What sort of scope is that on there wingman??

shmit n bender I think is on the side???

I was trying to see that Micky. Glasses are at the workshop, so thought I would just ask instead to confirm.

control button bottom left of keypad and plus button up near top right on key pad....lol no use if on cellphone though.
I THINK I can see a 4 on top...maybe a 1-4 or some such.

Had a couple of 6.5 Grendel's out this week with a few mates chasing some fallow. Great time had by all, such a pleasure to carry and hunt with. S&B is a 1-6 power and gets me on target to 500m.