Thread: Leupold Parts- Firedot battery cover NEEDED

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

The agency used to be shared between NZ Asia and Hunting and Fishing...thats where i would start

Hamish

When were the distribution rights shared? I only ever saw NZ Asia listed on the Leupold website.

Originally Posted by McNotty

When were the distribution rights shared? I only ever saw NZ Asia listed on the Leupold website.

H&F used to via Australia, when i worked there..... NZ Asia was back up
This was 10 plus years ago

Ah roger that.

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Sure did.....

Margin shouldn't be driven by a distribution company, worse when there are 2 distributors. If Giles was happy with less margin isnt that his choice..... quantity of sales catches up

Exactly. Distributors and importers set the "wholesale" or "trade" price to store or retailer. They (retailers) can sell for whatever margin they want or even give it away.......
However generally nz retailers will default to blaming manufacturer or importer when things are not going their way!

I can see many of you guys have not worked in the originator part of the supply chain. If you have good products the last thing you want is a few retailers cutting the guts out out of the price. It leads to a vicious price spiral, no one makes any margin and you loose support of your dealer network.

There is a legal way to manage price in our markets that gets around price manipulation McNotty. Its widely used, for example proprietary ag chem products, Miele whitegoods , as are many other products and possibly some Austrian made scopes also .
The product is "owned" by the supplier until the point of sale. On sale, the retailer is paid a fee for promoting the product, making the sale, collecting the cash and handling any product issues. The margins are good because there is no price erosion, less working capital is employed, and dealers like it.

Originally Posted by Dicko

I can see many of you guys have not worked in the originator part of the supply chain. If you have good products the last thing you want is a few retailers cutting the guts out out of the price. It leads to a vicious price spiral, no one makes any margin and you loose support of your dealer network.

There is a legal way to manage price in our markets that gets around price manipulation McNotty. Its widely used, for example proprietary ag chem products, Miele whitegoods , as are many other products and possibly some Austrian made scopes also .
The product is "owned" by the supplier until the point of sale. On sale, the retailer is paid a fee for promoting the product, making the sale, collecting the cash and handling any product issues. The margins are good because there is no price erosion, less working capital is employed, and dealers like it.

I currently do and have done for last 3 years, not sporting, and there comes a time as a supplier that you need to dictate pricing to merchants or resellers for both to win jobs, especially when the work market is low V the volume of people tendering for the jobs is high. And it works well, especially if the middle man is just clipping a ticket and dont touch the product....if i find the business i will have a discussion with the middle man around the margin they should set in the above scenario..... if they dont like it there are other merchants that are happy for the margin for no work involved....

Hamish

Originally Posted by McNotty

Large retailers may complain that they have large overheads and small retailers that have less overheads are undercutting their prices, but that’s business, and also tough shit.

So if someone is working for wages & the boss hires someone who lives closer to work, is happy to work for less than they do & takes their job its still tough shit then ????

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

So if someone is working for wages & the boss hires someone who lives closer to work, is happy to work for less than they do & takes their job its still tough shit then ????

Apples and oranges.
End of the day, it’s illegal behaviour from massive companies that should do better.

Mate, it’s not illegal behaviour if you do it the right way. You change the business model slightly, that all.

Don’t get me wrong I like a deal but sometimes you have to decide if full ticket pricing is worth it.


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Originally Posted by HNTMAD

I currently do and have done for last 3 years, not sporting, and there comes a time as a supplier that you need to dictate pricing to merchants or resellers for both to win jobs, especially when the work market is low V the volume of people tendering for the jobs is high. And it works well, especially if the middle man is just clipping a ticket and dont touch the product....if i find the business i will have a discussion with the middle man around the margin they should set in the above scenario..... if they dont like it there are other merchants that are happy for the margin for no work involved....

Hamish

Hamish,
Fully understand. This is how we have managed tenders with DOC etc and still put the business through the dist or retailer without cratering price by having everyone compete against each other.


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Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Contact deets

Thanks, i just sent them a message requesting the part. hopefully they respond
cheers