Rossi puma .357, 16" barrel bought back early 90's
Finally married the OEG (sight factory refurbished 2 years ago) that I bought 2nd hand over 25 years ago onto it.
Still getting my head around having a scopey thing on it as it is such a great little rifle as it but should be a great combo. I rate them both so together they should be doubly awesome lol
30/30 with ghost ring sight, just gets shit done.
Great thread!
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@Gun nut might it be possible to post a picture of the Winchester??? It would look good on this thread. Show them boys a bit of history
The two big boy levers that get most use.
The 45/70 with 350gr fp.
The triple 4 with 265gr fp.
I give the edge to the Triple 4 for NZ animals and conditions both hit very hard but the 444 has less recoil and a flater trajectory. Mine is sighted at 170yds and will put the 265gr into 1.5" at this range.
Velocity is thrilling,but diameter does the real killing.
Don’t know if you guys have seen this site, but Bighorn Armoury in the States make lever actions in 500S&W and 500 Linebaugh. Would sure put a dent in the shoulder (and wallet!)
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I give the edge to the Triple 4 for NZ animals and conditions both hit very hard but the 444 has less recoil and a flater trajectory. Mine is sighted at 170yds and will put the 265gr into 1.5" at this range.
nice rifles @john m very nice . . . but i feel that the advantages you give to the 444 over the .45/70 aren't looking at them from a level playing field when the .45s bullet is 85grns heavier
i can do the same thing and compare a 300grn. load for the 444 at 2000fps against a 250grn. flex tip Hornady bullet at +2300 in the .45/70 ( same barrel length ) and prove my cartridge is whatever i want if i cherry pick.
this info came from tenth addition of the Hornady manual . . . and Yes i admit that i do own a .45/70 & i have a bias against all the .44s, any cartridge that calls itself a .44 when it only has a bullet diamater of .427 to .430 obviously cannot be trusted and is a product of marketing . . . the .45s need no such padding.
they are both great cartridges !
without a picture . .. it never happened !
The 444 Marlin loves Vihtavuori N120
240 gr Hornady N120 53grs = 2560 fps (max load) ME 3493 100-2352 200-1544 300-999
265 gr Hornady N120 50.5grs = 2415 fps (max load) ME 3108 100-2072 200-1349 300-879
From Vihtavuori edition 8
I get better accuracy from the JM Marlin 444 over the Rem 45/70 3.5" at 200yds
They are both great and a difficult choice as to which one to take out for a walk.
I had the confidence to take this one at 120yds in the back of the head with 444.
Velocity is thrilling,but diameter does the real killing.
Holy crap...4 pages in just about as many days. A faaarkn lot of closet cowboys out there Nice rifles boys
Beautiful @john m does the .444 have the micro groove barrel? Looks to be from that era.
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