Rossi puma .357, 16" barrel bought back early 90's
Finally married the OEG (sight factory refurbished 2 years ago) that I bought 2nd hand over 25 years ago onto it.
Still getting my head around having a scopey thing on it as it is such a great little rifle as it but should be a great combo. I rate them both so together they should be doubly awesome lol
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30/30 with ghost ring sight, just gets shit done.
Great thread!
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@Gun nut might it be possible to post a picture of the Winchester??? It would look good on this thread. Show them boys a bit of history
The two big boy levers that get most use.
The 45/70 with 350gr fp.
The triple 4 with 265gr fp.
I give the edge to the Triple 4 for NZ animals and conditions both hit very hard but the 444 has less recoil and a flater trajectory. Mine is sighted at 170yds and will put the 265gr into 1.5" at this range.
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Velocity is thrilling,but diameter does the real killing.
Don’t know if you guys have seen this site, but Bighorn Armoury in the States make lever actions in 500S&W and 500 Linebaugh. Would sure put a dent in the shoulder (and wallet!)
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More meplat, more better.
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I give the edge to the Triple 4 for NZ animals and conditions both hit very hard but the 444 has less recoil and a flater trajectory. Mine is sighted at 170yds and will put the 265gr into 1.5" at this range.
nice rifles @john m very nice . . . but i feel that the advantages you give to the 444 over the .45/70 aren't looking at them from a level playing field when the .45s bullet is 85grns heavier
i can do the same thing and compare a 300grn. load for the 444 at 2000fps against a 250grn. flex tip Hornady bullet at +2300 in the .45/70 ( same barrel length ) and prove my cartridge is whatever i want if i cherry pick.
this info came from tenth addition of the Hornady manual . . . and Yes i admit that i do own a .45/70 & i have a bias against all the .44s, any cartridge that calls itself a .44 when it only has a bullet diamater of .427 to .430 obviously cannot be trusted and is a product of marketing . . . the .45s need no such padding.
they are both great cartridges !
without a picture . .. it never happened !
The 444 Marlin loves Vihtavuori N120
240 gr Hornady N120 53grs = 2560 fps (max load) ME 3493 100-2352 200-1544 300-999
265 gr Hornady N120 50.5grs = 2415 fps (max load) ME 3108 100-2072 200-1349 300-879
From Vihtavuori edition 8
I get better accuracy from the JM Marlin 444 over the Rem 45/70 3.5" at 200yds
They are both great and a difficult choice as to which one to take out for a walk.
I had the confidence to take this one at 120yds in the back of the head with 444.
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Velocity is thrilling,but diameter does the real killing.
Holy crap...4 pages in just about as many days. A faaarkn lot of closet cowboys out thereNice rifles boys
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Beautiful @john m does the .444 have the micro groove barrel? Looks to be from that era.
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