Thread: Minimum legal barrel length and overall length for firearms

Howsabout just having a nice normal length gun? 762mm is hardly a punt gun now is it... Is this purely fashion? something for 3 gun playtime? or have you lot taken to wearing overcoats and hanging around banks

Reading these things makes me wonder if people WANT to have greter restrictions placed on firearms owners - take the piss and you get noticed and legislation gets put in place to cover the loophole - and probably erodes the status quo at the same time.

Originally Posted by steven

@digit and spanners, bear in mind the armourer is giving an opinion that may or may not be legally correct, only a court can decide that I believe. Given they lost on the pistol grip thing I'd suggest that if a suppressor is permanently fitted in such a way that if it or the bit its attached to was removed the gun was made in-operable I'd expect it to be legal, the law seems very precise to me. Guess you need to make one and wave it in front of your AO and see how it works out for you....

Another thought, if the barrel and suppressor was machined in one piece how doesnt that work? or what about a barrel with a total length overbarrel suppressor?

My reasoning to go super short is to keep all bullets subsonic, there is no need for another 6+ inches of barrel - maintaining legal OAL isnt really an issue.
A sub 10" barrel gun point like shit anyway
Porting the barrel to reduce velocity doesnt really work due to jacket damage and backboring relies on the bore being perfectly down the centre
The prob has been overcome in other ways, its now down to building another gas 45ACP to put into practice
Gun job #241 on the list

Originally Posted by Cyclist

Howsabout just having a nice normal length gun? 762mm is hardly a punt gun now is it... Is this purely fashion? something for 3 gun playtime? or have you lot taken to wearing overcoats and hanging around banks

Reading these things makes me wonder if people WANT to have greter restrictions placed on firearms owners - take the piss and you get noticed and legislation gets put in place to cover the loophole - and probably erodes the status quo at the same time.

I'm short and skinny and I like my guns the same way, and there's no logical reason why I shouldn't be allowed to

Pinning with a blob of weld drilled thru the suppressor thread and barrel thread would work too. if your supp was alloy an alloy tig would be the business, then at least a gunsmith would be able to remove it for maintance if nessary

hehe, i was tempted to ask the AO when he turns up to check things, but he might look at me funny..........



LOL, all these odd questions....like can a stripper clip be loaded in a car and whats the min gun length incl supressor....he might just carry my sad ass away there and then and introduce me to bubba my new best friend I dont need....

better to ask and know I say.

Bear in mind we are more up to date than most police officers, Im pretty sure that the "check your thumbhole"poster is still up in our police station
It pays not to piss the bear off tho, sometimes they try to bite

Id really like to practice on a sks first, but chopping down their gass system may be hard with the piston set up
in the end the whole rifle would cost what a barrel would for an ar15

Originally Posted by Cyclist

Howsabout just having a nice normal length gun? 762mm is hardly a punt gun now is it... Is this purely fashion? something for 3 gun playtime? or have you lot taken to wearing overcoats and hanging around banks

Reading these things makes me wonder if people WANT to have greter restrictions placed on firearms owners - take the piss and you get noticed and legislation gets put in place to cover the loophole - and probably erodes the status quo at the same time.

So what just don't be different?

@beavis, hehehe Ive asked my AO some Qs, "I'll get back to you" .........

@cyclist, sometimes ppl like to play with things to see how they work/ work out...surely asking means we want to be legal?

So what's the story with pistol-grip (no shoulder stock at all) on a shottie (mav 88 or whatever) for example. Is the gun not legal at all or just in no-mans-land? (they work out to be over the 764mm limit)

THe latest Hunting and Fishing cattledog has a whole page of "Tactical" shotguns with pistol grips.

Yeah I looked at them - they all have shoulder stocks. It's the pistol-grip option alone ie no shoulder stock whatsoever that I'm unsure about.

If it's over 762mm it's fine.

A pistol is 'under 762mm or designed or adapted to be fired with one hand'

Pretty hard to fire a 762mm long 12g one handed

PGO shotguns suck at everything though

iv had one of those 12ga 8 shot Mossbergs with just a pistol grip on.
very dangerous to fire with one hand let alone incredibly hard to take the weight
firing it one handed it nearly hit me in the face
utterly useless gun, with out the shouldering capability it is nearly impossible to hit anything
took it off and put the original stock back on.

Had a burn on a 590 with just a PG. Heaps of fun but as everyone else said good for fuck all.