Thread: Most Expensive Rifle in NZ

I'd imagine that the most expensive gun in NZ would be a shottie, not a rifle. Plenty of coined up bird hunters won't be seen dead with a shottie worth less than a hundred grand.

And I betcha that they wouldn't drop more birds than some clued up shooter with a Mossburg 500

Has a good taste in scope, nothing but the best. Maybe the scope was the expensive part of the set up.

Since this is a German made rifle, why is it not in a European calibre like 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser? That would make more sense? Or 7x57 or 8x57. WTF is a USA clone being built buy a German craftsman? The world is such a fircked up place!

Originally Posted by Hugh Shields

Since this is a German made rifle, why is it not in a European calibre like 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser? That would make more sense? Or 7x57 or 8x57. WTF is a USA clone being built buy a German craftsman? The world is such a fircked up place!

Because the first rule of business is

" the customer is always right even when they are wrong "

Originally Posted by akaroa1

Because the first rule of business is

" the customer is always right even when they are wrong "

The actual quote is supposed to be "The customer is always right in matters of taste" which definitely applies here...

If I was a gunmaker with that level of skill that someone were to approach me and say I have $200k will you build me a that one in this calibre then I will say yes, not a problem...Its not my issue if he has no taste and if he wants hot pink penguins on the side , he gets them.....The fact that no one will ever pay that for it if he sells it is his problem for poor choices in life, but I suspect people in thse positions can afford poor choices....

No chequering is quite bizarre, I agree most likely a shotty ,my neighbour came over the other day and saw a few heads in my garage , said her friends husband was into shooting , he’s in the UK at the moment shooting and it looks a bit like Downton Abbey ….some of those guys have deep pockets

I have no problem with the 6.5mm calibre, but the Creedmoor was developed to fit the AR15 platform, not a double rifle. 6.5x55 would have instantly elevated it in my opinion. The choice to scope a double speaks volumes about the gunsmith and their ability to regulate both barrels to shoot to the same point of impact. Serious skills involved in that.

Yea I guess it does. Told my mate that a deer wont know the difference between that and an old .303. He reackoned I was missing the point.........I spose I am

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

I have no problem with the 6.5mm calibre, but the Creedmoor was developed to fit the AR15 platform, not a double rifle. 6.5x55 would have instantly elevated it in my opinion. The choice to scope a double speaks volumes about the gunsmith and their ability to regulate both barrels to shoot to the same point of impact. Serious skills involved in that.

Apparently it's not too hard as long as the barrels are diverging at the regulation range (meaning that they need to come together at the regulating range). I'm told that if they are already crossing in front f the regulation range that can be a lot more pesky to sort out, in effect the legs need to be spread a bit more then the things adjusted back. Sounds really easy!

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

I have no problem with the 6.5mm calibre, but the Creedmoor was developed to fit the AR15 platform, not a double rifle. 6.5x55 would have instantly elevated it in my opinion. The choice to scope a double speaks volumes about the gunsmith and their ability to regulate both barrels to shoot to the same point of impact. Serious skills involved in that.

Actually I believe that the pictured rifle is a single shot with a German Set Trigger. It appears to me to be their round body model that they now also make in Titanium.

Originally Posted by Tech

Actually I believe that the pictured rifle is a single shot with a German Set Trigger. It appears to me to be their round body model that they now also make in Titanium.

Yes it is indeed a Kipplauf ( elbow action ) Stutzen ( carbine ) which make its chambering in 6.5CM ( a rimless case ) a crime

Kipplauf should ( in my opinion ) only be made for Rimmed and Flanged cartridges

There does seem to be a trend in Europe towards outrageous walnut stocks with no checkering
Intended to show off the wood which gives away that they are unlikely to be hunted with.

Purely a status symbol

This is what a kipplauf stock should look like with better lines. But also lacks checkering



And an Ischler Stutzen. Also lacks checkering which renders it useless


Both these rifles by Franzoj who also makes the Titanium and Carbon Fiber Kipplauf which is cheaper at €40,000

If it has to be 6.5 then the x57R would be my choice.

Some wood finishes are 'sticky' and have good grip without needing to be checkered, I'm not sure about those but I'd suggest that the stock guy possibly knows a thing or two. I would be surprised to find they were in any way slippery and needed extra grip - considering that how many bolt action military rifles were made and also considering how many of those had checkering, I don't recall many arguments from the procurement peoples wanting them ribbed for pleasure. I think the 'bald' look is bloody good to be fair - I'd almost consider saving those bits of timber if I came across them in the firewood pile!