Thread: New 7mm offering by federal

Here we go with the good old kiwi " it's new so it must be shit " saga once again.

Since none of us have tried it and it's cost none of us fuck all,why the interest in shitting on it?

You guys sound like a bunch of kids moaning about their mates new 10 speed ��

Originally Posted by norsk

Here we go with the good old kiwi " it's new so it must be shit " saga once again.

Since none of us have tried it and it's cost none of us fuck all,why the interest in shitting on it?

You guys sound like a bunch of kids moaning about their mates new 10 speed ��

Yup hope you don't mind paying $200 NZD for a box of 20 rounds. Might be alright for those who buy a rifle to not fire it but keep it at home to show their mates

Originally Posted by caberslash

Yup hope you don't mind paying $200 NZD for a box of 20 rounds. Might be alright for those who buy a rifle to not fire it but keep it at home to show their mates

prices in markets that actually count (i.e. the us) will be much more reasonable.

Originally Posted by norsk

Here we go with the good old kiwi " it's new so it must be shit " saga once again.

Since none of us have tried it and it's cost none of us fuck all,why the interest in shitting on it?

You guys sound like a bunch of kids moaning about their mates new 10 speed ��

Not kiwi...

just a bunch of ignorant old farts with little else to do...

Sounds like a very interesting proposition, eleminating the one weakness the 7prc (and rem mag) has...

but time will tell if it will catch on.

Originally Posted by norsk

Here we go with the good old kiwi " it's new so it must be shit " saga once again.

Since none of us have tried it and it's cost none of us fuck all,why the interest in shitting on it?

You guys sound like a bunch of kids moaning about their mates new 10 speed ��

Nailed it

But mines only a 3 speed

I think going to higher pressure cases, is more sensible and worthwhile than simple change of shape on the same rough powder capacity, that we have seen up till now.

I like that's its kept a classic case head diameter and retains a 5 shot capacity on standard actions.

I like that it has a decent range of bullet weight options that makes it semi sensible for guys wanting to get the most out of high BC, long range, while also having a reasonable more traditional projectile option for guys like me that just want flat trajectory as possible at under 500 meters.

Im not sure that it will make a heavy projectile at those sort of velocities, any more shootable or comfortable for the average hunter. And Im unsure if the extra will be needed in most guys cases.

But it seems well thought out and developed.

If high pressure brass becomes a thing what would you build?

I'll finally get a 18" Dasher and shoot 105s ...

Originally Posted by SPEARONZ

If high pressure brass becomes a thing what would you build?

I'll finally get a 18" Dasher and shoot 105s ...

I'd take another 4 inches of your old rifle. 12 inch barrel throwing those 80eldms at almost 2700fps.

I didn't say it was shit. I called bullshit on marketing hype that says it will have less recoil than other same calibre rounds firing same projectile at same velocity.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

I didn't say it was shit. I called bullshit on marketing hype that says it will have less recoil than other same calibre rounds firing same projectile at same velocity.

spooner covered that though and it does because it about the amount of powder being burnt rather then pressure like most people think uses alot less powder so makes sense

either way you look at it and its a bigger step forward then what the 7mm PRC was promised then turned out to be so pretty exciting pushing higher pressures with less powder in these steel cases is pretty interesting
my 300 win mag shooting 180gr bondstrikes is more then enough to satisfy my needs and shooting to 500ish

Originally Posted by Carbine

spooner covered that though and it does because it about the amount of powder being burnt rather then pressure like most people think uses alot less powder so makes sense

either way you look at it and its a bigger step forward then what the 7mm PRC was promised then turned out to be so pretty exciting pushing higher pressures with less powder in these steel cases is pretty interesting
my 300 win mag shooting 180gr bondstrikes is more then enough to satisfy my needs and shooting to 500ish

I can't agree with that, Newton's third law says that when two bodies interact by applying force to one another, in this case the gun and the bullet the effect is equal on both but in opposite directions. It's the mass of the bullet and the speed it reaches along with the firearms weight that determines recoil not the amount of powder burnt to do that.

If we don't support new idea's they will cease to be developed. Sure the driver behind this development is sales,it has to be simple as that.
I am most excited at where they could go from this neich cartridge technology when applied to existing chamberings,using special actions and cases.

Can you imagine the push back when nitro powder was developed, people had to throw away their existing guns and buy special projectiles that they could no.longer case in the open fire in their parlor?

The ammo cost in its biggest market will be much less because of economy of scale,anyhow the cost of that single vital round is fuck all compared to all the other stuff involved in a hunt.

The mass of powder is taken into account because it is also being pushed down the barrel just like the projectile, even if it is also in the gas form.

The recoil claim does have merit, as powder has mass and is being thrown out along with the bullet.

Graph below from shooterscalculator.com... 175gr bullet at 3000fps in a 9lb rifle. Only change being an increase in powder charge weight... 60gr for a 7BC, 70gr for a 7PRC, and 80gr for a 28 Nosler.



Obviously with the different performance characteristics of the above cartridges, the three rifles would have different length barrels to get the same MV and keep it apples to apples. But it shows that there's a useful recoil reduction to be had by using less powder.