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    One further point to add.

    The PRC series of cartridges was in part designed to cater for those who wished to compete in the the PRS competitions with off the shelf rifles and ammo.

    Hornady saw an opportunity in the market and are trying to exploit it.

    Time will tell if it is viable or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mm tragic View Post
    One further point to add.

    The PRC series of cartridges was in part designed to cater for those who wished to compete in the the PRS competitions with off the shelf rifles and ammo.

    Hornady saw an opportunity in the market and are trying to exploit it.

    Time will tell if it is viable or not.
    At last someone gets the point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mm tragic View Post
    One further point to add.

    The PRC series of cartridges was in part designed to cater for those who wished to compete in the the PRS competitions with off the shelf rifles and ammo.

    Hornady saw an opportunity in the market and are trying to exploit it.

    Time will tell if it is viable or not.
    The PRC cartridges from Hornady might share 'precision' in the name, but they have little space on the US competitive PRS circuit.

    It's been distilled down to forumula, with a 25lb rifle shooting a projectile between 6-6.5 mm (or 25cal) around 2750-2900 fps.

    You might see them featuring in NRL hunter matches or 'steel safari' but in terms of multi-round stages, you are going to be dealing with more recoil (less ability to spot impacts), more heat (mirage from barrel and moderator) and overall lower magazine capacity due to the larger case.

    The 6.5 PRC is arguably a George Gardner effort, as he wanted 6.5 SAUM to keep going after Remington canned it (they kill all their darlings).

    Precision Rifle Cartridge is a nice way to say 'magnum', but the verbiage is confusing.

    A lot of people think that the 7PRC should have been the 6.5 case necked up, but someone at Hornady designed it to fit the Tikka T3 action exactly... shame Tikka/Beretta don't agree (they have yet to make a fast-twist 7mm barrel, personally think a 1-8" 7mm08 would be a better prospect)!
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    Would you shoot 180s out of a fast twist 7/08 if u had one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPEARONZ View Post
    Would you shoot 180s out of a fast twist 7/08 if u had one?
    in soft round nose it would make an awesome bush rifle..so yes. it would kick arse of the 308 shooting same 180 as far as both SD and BC are concerned being longer n skinnier....
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    a good mate has a 6.5costsmore...and I give him shit about it....good natured shit.... he shoots factory fodder and averages 1 shot per deer...all from vechille all under 200 yards... funny thing was he "thought' they were honking along at 4000fps and it shoots really flat...
    I did show him proper drop chart for it....
    so yip Philipo you are correct that folks buy accurate rifle to shoot factory rounds without hassle..... its a plurry Kimber too..light as hell... I do hope he cleans it better than the poor ruger .44magnum LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPEARONZ View Post
    Would you shoot 180s out of a fast twist 7/08 if u had one?
    180ELDM?

    In a Tikka T3 action with AICS mags and long bolt stop? 100%

    Not in something with a standard S/A box length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caberslash View Post
    180ELDM?

    In a Tikka T3 action with AICS mags and long bolt stop? 100%

    Not in something with a standard S/A box length.
    The tikka long action mag works very well too :-) not even need to replace the bottom metal or to put it into a chassis …
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    Maybe... but just maybe the fact that the 7prc has been around for 2 years (?) contributes towards it not being more widely adopted.

    We will know in a few years whether its an actual lemon.

    Remember there still are people that thrash the 6.5 creedmor while praising the 6.5 swede...

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    The 7prc has been approved by the CIP ( the European SAAMI) since novembre 2023.
    My guess is that once the ammo have crossed the Atlantic, notably to Germany and uk, we ll start to see European gunsbeeing manufactured.( if it is not already the case). I remember when the 6.5 prc came out, sauer were the first guns to come out in that caliber on the old continent. They might very well beat beretta again at this game.

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    I think recoil will handicap the 7PRC when it is finally widely availible here in factory rifles

    A 175-180 grain supersonic projectile is quite the handful in a suppressed lightweight hunting rifle, extremely difficult/impossible to spot your shot

    A decent brake will fix that problem but we are a suppressor country, not a brake country

    Handloading with lighter projectiles will also help, but factory ammo is predominately 175-180 which is the whole point of the 7PRC with its fast twist for the high BC projectiles

    When the 300Rum was introduced many moons ago, there were very few brakes & even less suppressors availible here, they sold well but some showed up as new back in the shops a short time later

    The factory 180 grain projectiles at 3200fps were quite unpleasant to shoot even in a Remington Sendero which was certainly no lightweight rifle, let alone an LSS which is still heavy by todays standards
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    We carried suppressed Senderos into back ridge many times


    The rums certainly did what they were meant to do, but they used 101-104g of US869 to do it

    We then went to Titanium’s then Titanium Alaskans with the fluted barrels but Ngamatea and Central North Island Plateau pumice dust and Ti lugs was not the best combo

    Your brakes have tamed a lot of lightweights that’s for sure Greg
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    We carried suppressed Senderos into back ridge many times


    The rums certainly did what they were meant to do, but they used 101-104g of US869 to do it

    We then went to Titanium’s then Titanium Alaskans with the fluted barrels but Ngamatea and Central North Island Plateau pumice dust and Ti lugs was not the best combo

    Your brakes have tamed a lot of lightweights that’s for sure Greg
    Bad memories it was like carrying a crowbar with a batten shaped stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    We carried suppressed Senderos into back ridge many times


    The rums certainly did what they were meant to do, but they used 101-104g of US869 to do it

    We then went to Titanium’s then Titanium Alaskans with the fluted barrels but Ngamatea and Central North Island Plateau pumice dust and Ti lugs was not the best combo

    Your brakes have tamed a lot of lightweights that’s for sure Greg

    Still have very fond memories of the long shots pulled off with the Sendero but certainly don’t have fond memories of carrying it!
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    Have any of you guys tried 140 - 150 grainers in ya 7PRC ?

    A 140 BT doing 3300 + would be a good flat shooter
    Shoot it, root it & then BBQ it !!!

 

 

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