Natatale,
You need to have a bit of a study of the Port Arthur scenario. There hasn't been another one since because THAT one achieved Howard-the Coward's pre-conceived plan "to bring in new gun laws in Oz". He already had the new laws drawn up BEFORE Port Arthur happened. What a coincidence!!!! & I don't believe in them things.!!!
Wasn't Natatale the ozy guy who wanted only ex military guys to own mssa because they had been " trained" with them?
COLFO are apparently aware of the situation and moving to react to it. Lawyer Nicholas Taylor is also in contact with police.
Get it right, I said "Military style weapons should be for those vetted and trained to use them. not just any, tom, dick or dickhead".
What does it matter anyway the government of the day will do what ever it f@#k'n pleases !!!! good luck trying to change their minds.
Any f@#k'n massacre don't play with words.
We just had 3 major one's worldwide all with military style weapons, and if you listen carefully to the sound track's from these live news items, you can hear high-powered semi-automatic gun fire in the background.
Did you want the to hear that sound in your local shopping mall as well ???? I don't think so !!!
F@#k'n grow up, the world we live in just got nasty, and you'd be one that puts his head in the sand and says "I'm right mate wont happen here"
And Man landed on the moon, or did he ???, and oh 911 was a setup by the American Government to declare war on terrorism ???, show us the proof behind any of it !!!!
Lots of theories thrown around by journalists and theory crackpots, we will never Know the truth behind any of it !!!!
I was hoping you'd make some distinction between " types" of massacre. There's been plenty before and after Port Arthur. Digging into the firearms related ones on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Australia, only two others were committed with semi-autos (including an evil SKS). Others were committed with bolt actions, pistols, and pump-action shotguns, knives, and fire.
The common factor is an unhinged perpetrator(s) wanting to do harm to others. Take away one means, and they'll find another way to achieve their goal.
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Yep and if you read, all were Domestic disputes gone violent, not crazies going about random shooting, or terrorist style killings.
Yep take one type of weapon and there will be another way, but don't you think its worth trying to do something, rather than do nothing ?!?!?
New Zealand is not the police state that Aussie is Natatale. If you knew the history of our firearms legislation you would know that when the government tried to introduce the Arms Amendment Bill No.2, which suggested firearms registration, 6500 submissions to parliament, the most in the history of the country, were sent in telling them to get stuffed. They had to run extra sessions for all the people who demanded to be heard in person. That bill was kicked aside. We have taken the police to court and won when they tried to make the law up around MSSA's and on other matters. We can guide the government when we try, like any lobby group.
You've said a lot more than that.
military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.Having semi auto 7.62 readably available to ANY person with a FAL is a recipe for a mass shooting.And here's the kicker.And tell me what the fuck do you need with a semi auto 7.62, would you use it to stop a charging mob of goats from killing you ???
There are places for these types of weapons and NZ doesn't really need them !!
There's just not enough cotton wool in the world to do its job!
Boom, cough,cough,cough
And we digress from the original topic.
We will have to wait and see what happens and be prepared to act on what the police say is going to happen. We can consider possible scenarios and prepare for them.
Everyone knows that aside from Aromoana and Napier, and maybe the odd other one, firearms have had little involvement in homicides. Knives and other weapons seem to be the choice.
So let's use this as a way of brainstorming of how we can deal with whatever may happen.
My thoughts anyway.
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