Thread: new law and gun shop

YOU WILL BEND THE KNEE!

Did you lads read in the news about the guy with the dirt bike on the back of his car ( on a trailer) , some dirtbags on motorbikes rock up beside him and point pistols at him. Saying pull over at the next turn off. We want your dirt bike and car . The guy escaped by stomping the brakes .
Who knows if they were real guns or not.....

NZ is fucked.

Not going to prematurely reg until the time comes unless the absolute need beforehand, which is unlikely. Not going to give labour, Cahill and greens political voting leverage to broadcast to their worshippers (& hopeful new recruits) that the untrusted gun nuts are all happy with the new laws and are outdoing themselves to rush in and register en-mass proven as statistical evidence of a totally successful trustworthy, secure and safe firearm registry rollout. Also impowers them to charge what they like for the privilege of doing so at anytime they want and then some as the sheep will simply roll over.

As for retail, little margin/turnover on guns only to make a living on, it's the accessories, expendables, camping/tramping gear and seasonal hunting fashion updates that all the bits that Joe public can purchase keeps a business floating.

Originally Posted by NIMROD

Its a bit like not going hunting because your worried about your car getting done over at the carpark...... The criminals have beaten you into submission.
If you don't buy that rifle you like because your worried about the registration being triggered...... The anti guns and anti hunting politicians have neaten you into submission.
If we hide in the shadows, then they wont know how united and strong we are politically.
Imagine if 250,000 firearms owners register ? then even the most brain dead politicians will wake up and take us seriously.
A new Govt wont help us unless they recognize our political potential.
My way of thinking anyway

There are other analogies one could make that are counter to your one but they go very deep down the rabbit hole.

I'm delaying importing things I want because of the register.
It effects my shooting very very little so its barely even a inconvenience.

The only way the politicans would wake up is of zero people registered their guns.
Or if ACT get 20%+ of the votes in October. Then sends a very very strong message.

Yes if act can get 18 to 20 mp in parliament, that will send a very strong signal indeed.
I heard on the radio the other day that only 11000 gun owners had registered stuff. That was encouraging…in a way.

I am in process of registering at the moment. They seem very concern by how many rounds each of your guns can hold and if it is a detachable magazine. I wonder if one of the next move won’t be to limit how many rounds we can have in our guns.

Pretty much everything these days is DBM, except shotguns. Not seeing the issue there as everything is already limited capacity by law?

Was sorely tempted yesterday in Dunedin H&F. A lovely full wood Carl Gustav in 6.5x55 scoped for $700. There was also Ruger No.1 in 45-120, octagonal barrel - $2000. Not sure about that one but some very good secondhand packages for a newbie like the Howa S/S in 7mm-08 I saw in Cromwell, topped off with a Swarovski worth around $1400-1600 and dpt suppressor at $400 odd, all for just under 2 grand. Pretty much giving the rifle away for nothing.

Centrefire section on TM has over a thousand in it currently. Yes, things have slowed up for now, so if you’re a new FAL holder or you’re already triggered in some way or other, there are certainly bargains to be had now and in the coming months I’m thinking.

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Well for a start they’ve already had one cock up, how would you like your details, firearm numbers and types falling into the wrong hands?
A shopping list for criminals. How would you like having a knock on your door one night by a few gang members coming round to fill their shopping list?

For some of us it won’t be the first time


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I think it will detur people and stores may close our locals gone from an average of three rifles a day to 1 at best .

National didnt oppose so I think its a new reality and we will get use to it. 3 weeks in and the police have already had an address whoopsy which doesnt fill everybody fill of confidence

Anecdotally, the existence of the register has already resulted in some FAL holders acquiescing and giving up their firearm sporting interest. I was in the pistol room at a local firearms retailer a week ago and noticed that there were quite a number of second hand pistols. When I asked, the explanation given was that people were selling up and getting out because of the register. This is not going to happen with me but I can understand the why with the less enthusiastic members of our fraternity.

Originally Posted by Friwi

Yes if act can get 18 to 20 mp in parliament, that will send a very strong signal indeed.
I heard on the radio the other day that only 11000 gun owners had registered stuff. That was encouraging…in a way.

I am in process of registering at the moment. They seem very concern by how many rounds each of your guns can hold and if it is a detachable magazine. I wonder if one of the next move won’t be to limit how many rounds we can have in our guns.

That sounds more like checking youhave complied with previous law changes

With a complete list of firearms held including caliber, I reckon this will be next on the agenda.......

https://www.ssaa.org.au/?ss_news=wha...-wa-police-ban

https://7news.com.au/news/wa/dozens-...red-c-11128983

Anyone want to take a bet?

I'd hazard a guess and say the next thing to go will be centrefire detachable magazines, then pump actions.

Originally Posted by Allgood

With a complete list of firearms held including caliber, I reckon this will be next on the agenda.......

https://www.ssaa.org.au/?ss_news=wha...-wa-police-ban

https://7news.com.au/news/wa/dozens-...red-c-11128983

Anyone want to take a bet?

Aussie can be so anal at times!