Thread: OVL requirement advice

Originally Posted by Macca

I wonder if throwing a Magpul PRS on it would give it minimum length.

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Yes but it's be horrible - they weigh a ton and the balance would be awful. They're not made for short handy guns, they're for boat anchor "precision rifles". An A1, A2, Magpul MOE rifle length or a collapsible pinned open are better options.

compeltly agree, my 1022 would work fine without the stock,
if the brake is pinned on like how my RRAs one was, which was drilled then filled with weld or solder that was damn near impossible to get off it would pass
a suppressor that spins off in 5 seconds flat would not

I still want to do a extreamly short subsonic 22 with a suppressor perminantly fitted bringing it up to 762mm, welded or similar but you need a engineer that is prepaired to do it that does decent work and is prepaired to work in the grey area between cutting the barrel and perminantly fitting the supp to the rifle

and just so you A-cat guys know the spear mag A-cat stocks are about a cm shorter than the standard a2? stock
I had to do a remeasure to make sure all is ok

Originally Posted by Bill999

if the brake is pinned on like how my RRAs one was, which was drilled then filled with weld or solder that was damn near impossible to get off it would pass
a suppressor that spins off in 5 seconds flat would not

I know that that's the way it seems to be, but why should a 5 second to remove muzzle device not count, when a 15 second to unscrew and remove stock does?
I would say they both count because the screw hole in the receiver means the gun was designed to have a stock and the threaded barrel means the gun was designed to have a muzzle device. Removing either would the render the gun incomplete even though still functional.

Having a muzzle device that brings the OAL over 762 mm clearly shows intent to comply.

Originally Posted by Bill999

and just so you A-cat guys know the spear mag A-cat stocks are about a cm shorter than the standard a2? stock
I had to do a remeasure to make sure all is ok

A1 length - same as Magpul fixed rifle stock

Just called the AO at the Tauranga police branch, who claims that the 762mm length requirement only applies to A category firearms, and if its registered as an MSSA then the length doesn't matter as its endorsed as an E Not an A or a pistol.

Going to call a few more later to get a wider pool of opinions but for now smokos over.

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Originally Posted by Macca

Just called the AO at the Tauranga police branch, who claims that the 762mm length requirement only applies to A category firearms, and if its registered as an MSSA then the length doesn't matter as its endorsed as an E Not an A or a pistol.

Going to call a few more later to get a wider pool of opinions but for now smokos over.

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That sounds awesome, but I kinda doubt it. The law just states that anything under 762mm is a handgun, doesn't mention anything about that only applying to A cats. If it is true, what stops us from getting handguns on E?

Originally Posted by Banana

That sounds awesome, but I kinda doubt it. The law just states that anything under 762mm is a handgun, doesn't mention anything about that only applying to A cats. If it is true, what stops us from getting handguns on E?

It's like porn: you know it when you see it.

But hey get that in writing, and we're set. Brb buying a hacksaw

haha time for a Noveske diplomat

Perhaps its down to the individual arms officers wether they see it as a pistol or a rifle and if they choose to enforce the unspecified law around it?

Will have to do some more digging as an unknown in the realm of pestering AO's about their knowledge of the laws 😉

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its interpretation of an act/law so an arsewipe AO will get on a power trip over a technicality where as a level headed AO will use his judgement

surely when you apply for an import permit they will look then and there right?
or is it coming in on a thai fishing boat