Thread: Pard vs Pulsar

While it is possible to use a clip on NV without parallax adjustment on your scope it's certainly no where near as clean and your range is limited. I would actually steer away from a dedicated NV scope as they have a much more limited zoom range than traditional scopes, if you're at relatively close range it'd be good, but I can count points on stags out to 600m with my clip on with an external torch which you definitely couldn't do with a dedicated NV scope

The new Arken Zulus might change your mind on what’s possible with digital at longer range.

I have to agree having seen the videos tahr has posted taken with one both day and night that's serious competition for conventional optics at a similar price, and that's ignoring the added benefits of extended twilight and actual NV.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

I have to agree having seen the videos tahr has posted taken with one both day and night that's serious competition for conventional optics at a similar price, and that's ignoring the added benefits of extended twilight and actual NV.

…and laser range finder and ballistics calculator. The future is pretty much here.

If you’re talking handhelds then the PARD takes the cake over the Pulsar in the same price bracket all day long IMO. The 18650 batteries is a big bonus too.

I wouldn’t use a pard if you give me one for free. Had one and fogged up in the rain. Rang Pard and they offered a replacement. It fogged up too. Said they “don’t do returns”. Was a complete nightmare for weeks trying to get my money back. Finally did in the end after saying I was going to the small claims court. Have 2 sytongs now and they are very good. Shooting critters 5-7 nights a week in all weather conditions and haven’t had any problems with them. Pard still refuse to this day that it was a product failure and blame me for the scope having moister on the inside of the lens. Have photos to show water droplets on the inside of the rear lens and fogging up in the cold and wet. Wouldn’t recommend a pard to be honest.

Pretty interesting comments for a first time poster, I’ll have a chat with Fraser about what your saying

If anything happens to your pulsar, which there is a reasonable chance from experience with several units, you will be waiting a long time for them to get fixed. Think one unit was close to 6 months. That along with the fact you have to buy their special batteries etc. 18650s are so much easier and cheaper.
I know the unit that Kaweka223 is talking about and I have also had some pretty average customer service as well in regards to another night vision unit several years ago.
Sytong came out and changed to that, have used the gear for a serious amount of work and not had any issues. Pretty sure if I did I would be looked after.

I've got a Pulsar XP38 had it for 6 years now, think it was the latest at the time. Never had problem with it. Threads like this scare me when ppl talk about how difficult or long it takes to get Pulsar fixed. Last year went thermal scope route and got the talion, cheapest entry level. Its clarity is better because of more modern technology. In hindsight would have liked better quality thermal scope. At the end of the day the old handheld finds them, just keep on trying to get too close is my failing, but no pressure with thermal gear plenty of time to watch and wait. Spotlighting never worked for me

Have a chat with Fraser all you want mate. Have photos of the conversations we had after my pard shit out 3 times. He wouldn’t even answer the phone to me and have a conversation about the faulty product and just constantly hung up and ignored my messages. Really really disappointed in the customer service from pard to be honest and will never buy one again because of this.

Originally Posted by Kaweka.223

Have a chat with Fraser all you want mate. Have photos of the conversations we had after my pard shit out 3 times. He wouldn’t even answer the phone to me and have a conversation about the faulty product and just constantly hung up and ignored my messages. Really really disappointed in the customer service from pard to be honest and will never buy one again because of this.

With respect, your comments would carry more weight if you were an established member of the forum, rather than someone whose first two posts are having a crack at someone a lot of us have dealt with and had a good experience.

All good mate. If it was a good customer service I would have said that also but it wasn’t so just sharing my opinion which I’m entitled too and the experience I had dealing with pard nz after my product was faulty. If it was dealt with in a more professional manner we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place. I’m sure people can make their own mind up about it anyway. Not sure why you’d think I’d come onto a forum and make up lies about something. I have better things to do with my time. Bottom line was my pard had water droplets on the inside of the rear lens even tho it was ip67 waterproof and fogged up on numerous occasions and I couldn’t get a full refund off pard when I tried to explain this and was told it was “user error”.

Originally Posted by turtleSO

I've got a Pulsar XP38 had it for 6 years now, think it was the latest at the time. Never had problem with it. Threads like this scare me when ppl talk about how difficult or long it takes to get Pulsar fixed. Last year went thermal scope route and got the talion, cheapest entry level. Its clarity is better because of more modern technology. In hindsight would have liked better quality thermal scope. At the end of the day the old handheld finds them, just keep on trying to get too close is my failing, but no pressure with thermal gear plenty of time to watch and wait. Spotlighting never worked for me

I brought one of the 1st Pulsar units in chch 10yrs ago,XQ 38 Helium hand held.Nearlly 5k then ooch.Amazing unit for its time,never had a problem with it.Sold it 4yrs later for nearly the same purchase price.Pulsars boys in Nelson rang me a couple of times see how it was going.Good they showed interest in their products.

My Pard also had water droplets on the lens when I received it. I sent it back for repair so time will tell if it holds up. Haven't had any fogging issues. Mines a TA62.
I like the size of the Pard very handy. Videoing function is also very handy with sound too.

Originally Posted by Kaweka.223

All good mate. If it was a good customer service I would have said that also but it wasn’t so just sharing my opinion which I’m entitled too and the experience I had dealing with pard nz after my product was faulty. If it was dealt with in a more professional manner we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place. I’m sure people can make their own mind up about it anyway. Not sure why you’d think I’d come onto a forum and make up lies about something. I have better things to do with my time. Bottom line was my pard had water droplets on the inside of the rear lens even tho it was ip67 waterproof and fogged up on numerous occasions and I couldn’t get a full refund off pard when I tried to explain this and was told it was “user error”.

I have no position on whether or not what your claim happened - I wasn't there. My point is that you seem surprised that forum members don't automatically believe your version of the story. A lot of us know Fraser, few of us (if any) know you. You are welcome to change that.