Thread: Potentially banned non-semi automatic rifles

Probably easier to make a list of what isn’t banned. Might be a shorter list.

Originally Posted by stug

Can we make a list of non semi-automatic rifles that will/might be banned under the proposed legislation and the reason

BSA Sportsman 15 .22LR It has a 15 shot tubular magazine. Magazines greater than 10 shot will be prohibited.

My first rifle unfortunately turned it into a dummy lurncher for dog retrieving

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Originally Posted by Beavis

Browning BL22

Winchester 1890 and Mod 62

Remington 572

Henry Golden Boy

Winchester 94 - 22

I have a Browning BL22, first rifle I bought and have shot thousands of bunnies in central otago with it over the years. A very trusty reliable friend. It would break my bloody heart to have to give it up, I would liken it to taking the dog to the vet to be put down. Bloody hard thing to do.

Originally Posted by Mr Browning

I have a Browning BL22, first rifle I bought and have shot thousands of bunnies in central otago with it over the years. A very trusty reliable friend. It would break my bloody heart to have to give it up, I would liken it to taking the dog to the vet to be put down. Bloody hard thing to do.

Multiply that feeling by a factor of 10 for some Semi auto owners

Would it be fair to saw that any centrefire with a detachable mag will be gone.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Would it be fair to saw that any centrefire with a detachable mag will be gone.

Only in semi-auto or if the mag is > 10 rounds.

Shortening a tube mag on the likes of a BL22 is not something that can be undone. And I have seen nothing that would suggest that would be unacceptable. they stated that you cannot modify a semi auto to less than 5 rounds to make it legal in the OIC, but that seems to be because once the law was pushed through, the rifle was gone anyway even if it only had 4 shots. And they were not accepting action alterations to make them non-semi auto because those mods could be undone....

I have seen nothing regarding not being allowed to shorten 22 magazines and if you may think it sacrilegious to do so, it is better than the crusher.

Are there any revolver rifles out there? A cylinder holds 6 rounds and fires every time you pull the trigger... Rossi Circuit Judge, is just one example.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Only in semi-auto or if the mag is > 10 rounds.

When you say if the mag is 10 rounds, is that fitted to the rifle or able to be purchased.

Originally Posted by tetawa

When you say if the mag is 10 rounds, is that fitted to the rifle or able to be purchased.

There in lies the great issue. That is not specified and up to (police) interpretation....

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

Are there any revolver rifles out there? A cylinder holds 6 rounds and fires every time you pull the trigger... Rossi Circuit Judge, is just one example.

Dont think so because of the ease with which these are made into pistols. I dont think they are on the approved firearms list and as such would already be restricted. (Please correct me if I am wrong here.)

@tetawa it is only the magazine that is prohibited, except for pump action shotguns that are capable of being used with a detachable magazine. For every other non-prohibited firearm so long as the magazines you have in your possession hold 10 rounds or less you are fine.

What's the score with bolt actions that take the same mags as a semi? Mossberg MVP and AR mags or Ruger American Ranch and mini 30 mags for example. Are the mags still legal or are these rifles basically gone without (imaginary)compensation?

That is where there is a conflict in the proposed laws. The firearm itself is OK, but it contains a banned part.

It's so open to interpretation. I have multiple chassis rifles. Pistol grips per se aren't a problem... but if it's compatible with a prohibited firearm, technically no. As are the buffer tubes, castle nuts, stocks... and suppressors, and scopes.

Part of me thinks maybe modofying the chassis to make it incompatible with AR furniture is an idea. Fill the buffer tube with epoxy. Mill the interface for the pistol grip flat and make my own grips. Good luck using them on an AR.

But then there's still an AR out there somewhere that'll be compatible with the scopes and suppressors I have. So unless the intention is to ban them too, it's unreasonable to consider them AR parts, in which case it's also unreasonable to consider the furniture as AR parts.

One great big grey area.