Thread: Rattle gun suggetions

Brought scopes from Oz in my carry on heaps of times. Brought them in as well No dramas at all.
I don't have it in its original box and how are they to know where I got it. Been questioned about them but only to start a conversation about hunting and the like.
Just re read the importation of accessories. Scopes are not on the list
So safe to carry in and out.

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Originally Posted by R93

Brought scopes from Oz in my carry on heaps of times. Brought them in as well No dramas at all.
I don't have it in its original box and how are they to know where I got it. Been questioned about them but only to start a conversation about hunting and the like.
Just re read the importation of accessories. Scopes are not on the list
So safe to carry in and out.

True, the importation of scopes and firearm accessories does not require a permit. However, exporting does.


The Australian Government monitors and controls the export of firearms and related goods. Firearms, firearm parts, accessories and ammunition, regardless of the state, age, completeness or working condition, are subject to export controls under Commonwealth legislation.

To export an item subject to these controls, the exporter must first obtain authorisation from a delegated officer of the Australian Government.

Export Firearms : Department of Defence


Scopes and accessories that are being exported without the firearm, are required to have a Defence Export Permit.


A Defence Export Permit may be used to export all forms of firearms and related goods including those where an Restricted Goods Permit may be used.

Permits are valid for twelve months from issue and are issued by the DECO.

There are certain circumstances for which only a Defence Export Permit can be used. These include:

-exports of five (5) or more firearms;
-unaccompanied exports; for example, goods being exported as cargo or by courier;
-exports of any amount of higher-risk or military firearms including their parts, accessories, and ammunition. This includes firearms referred to as Category C and D under State and Territory legislation, firearms over 0.50” (12.7mm) calibre and all automatic firearms;
-any firearm parts, accessories, sights, ammunition, magazines, etc, being exported without firearms; and
-firearms being exported for the purpose of repair, return, sales or as a gift.

To apply for a Defence Export Permit you will need to complete an Application to Export Controlled Goods and Technology form.
Firearms Permit : Department of Defence


While many people have done so without the required paperwork. I would suggest against doing so in the future.


Penalties

Failure to obtain permission to export is an offence under section 233BAB of the Customs Act 1901 and can attract a penalty of up to A$425,000 and or imprisonment for up to 10 years.
Export Firearms : Department of Defence

I'll do what I want. I am not exporting anything. I am taking what's mine. home😆


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Originally Posted by R93

I'll do what I want. I am not exporting anything. I am taking what's mine. home😆


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I'm sure the magistrate will accept that as your defence.

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Don't really care. I travel through 3 international airports every 6 weeks.
I have never had an issue with anything I have brought in and out of Australia most of it has been carry on and gets x-rayed twice.

If a Majistrate is going to do me over a sling swivel or scope good luck to the idiot. I couldn't care less😆



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Nice to see you care about following the law.

Best of luck.

I hope others aren't quite so cavalier about arms laws. Doesn't reflect well on firearm owners.

*apologies for the hijack*

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Get over yourself. It is a fucking scope.
Not a firearm in any context therefore no need to infer the worst to prove your point

Go find someone else to condescend.


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I'm not inferring anything.

You flat out said you don't care about obeying Australian
export laws.

Whether you consider it "just a scope", makes no difference under Australian law.

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I will change my evil ways. Right after I bring in my next gift.😆
Go ruin another thread seeing you have influenced and guided me to reform.


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Who gives a shit what Australians think about anything

Originally Posted by gimp

Who gives a shit what Australians think about anything

Suushhhh! Since when have you know any Australian to bend the rules to get what they want😆 They are just too proper😅

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Originally Posted by Koshogi

True, the importation of scopes and firearm accessories does not require a permit. However, exporting does.


The Australian Government monitors and controls the export of firearms and related goods. Firearms, firearm parts, accessories and ammunition, regardless of the state, age, completeness or working condition, are subject to export controls under Commonwealth legislation.

To export an item subject to these controls, the exporter must first obtain authorisation from a delegated officer of the Australian Government.

Export Firearms : Department of Defence


Scopes and accessories that are being exported without the firearm, are required to have a Defence Export Permit.


A Defence Export Permit may be used to export all forms of firearms and related goods including those where an Restricted Goods Permit may be used.

Permits are valid for twelve months from issue and are issued by the DECO.

There are certain circumstances for which only a Defence Export Permit can be used. These include:

-exports of five (5) or more firearms;
-unaccompanied exports; for example, goods being exported as cargo or by courier;
-exports of any amount of higher-risk or military firearms including their parts, accessories, and ammunition. This includes firearms referred to as Category C and D under State and Territory legislation, firearms over 0.50” (12.7mm) calibre and all automatic firearms;
-any firearm parts, accessories, sights, ammunition, magazines, etc, being exported without firearms; and
-firearms being exported for the purpose of repair, return, sales or as a gift.

To apply for a Defence Export Permit you will need to complete an Application to Export Controlled Goods and Technology form.
Firearms Permit : Department of Defence


While many people have done so without the required paperwork. I would suggest against doing so in the future.


Penalties

Failure to obtain permission to export is an offence under section 233BAB of the Customs Act 1901 and can attract a penalty of up to A$425,000 and or imprisonment for up to 10 years.
Export Firearms : Department of Defence

Australia is a land of a million rules, practically a Police state if you want. It is also a Country of people who know how to get round or ignore those rules in my experience. They don't particularly like or respect their police force either (also in my personal experience). Not a good place in this respect.

Back on topic. What mags does everyone run?
I have a couple brand new colt 30rnd mags and a couple 20rnd Nz Army issue ones.

Are there good plastic ones or just stick with what I have?

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I like alloy 20 rounders, 30 would be better for gun games but I like the little ones


shoot the alloy ones til you have a problem with them imo

I may have a 20 or 30 round colt mag in my pile of gear somewhere I'll dig out for you, I sold my rattle gun a long time ago.