Thread: Rem 700 halfcock

Originally Posted by JohnDuxbury

It's got a perfectly good safety.

Yeah, I run the safety these days after 20 years or more of halfcock.

The Lee Enfield legacy lives on and refuses to die.

I dont think you'll be able to do a half cock on a remington action the same way its being done on tikkas.

On a tikka you've got a pin that will move upward (from within the trigger mechanism)upon activation - to do a half cock safety upgrade an additional hole is machined into the bolt body. A remington trigger&safety works in a totally different way.

Would be interesting to see if someone's managed to do something like this on a remington.

Originally Posted by Dama dama

Yeah, I run the safety these days after 20 years or more of halfcock.

Yep, same here. I did use half-open bolt with a few bolt actions in the past. Since owned rifles in lever, pump, semi and straight-pull, all designed to be used with action closed and safety catch engaged.
For consistency I always use the safety now.

QUOTE=Jaco Goosen;1293230]I dont think you'll be able to do a half cock on a remington action the same way its being done on tikkas.

On a tikka you've got a pin that will move upward (from within the trigger mechanism)upon activation - to do a half cock safety upgrade an additional hole is machined into the bolt body. A remington trigger&safety works in a totally different way.

Would be interesting to see if someone's managed to do something like this on a remington.[/QUOTE

Yeah I was originally thinking that hense my OP, but hope it can. Be good to hear how yours turned out @stagstalker

Originally Posted by Jaco Goosen

I dont think you'll be able to do a half cock on a remington action the same way its being done on tikkas.

On a tikka you've got a pin that will move upward (from within the trigger mechanism)upon activation - to do a half cock safety upgrade an additional hole is machined into the bolt body. A remington trigger&safety works in a totally different way.

Would be interesting to see if someone's managed to do something like this on a remington.

That’s Greg’s half cock I had mine done at gun works years ago no hole in bolt and much better didn’t activate with the safety it activated at “half cocked” must have being a notch that the pin feel into underneath shoud never actually pulled it off and looked

I'm also interested in what sort of half cock you can do on a rem model 7.
I have both types of half cocks on the tikkas.
The 'safety hole' style and a 'half cock detent' style.
I drilled the bolt on my tikka .223 myself which worked well. Got sick of picking the rifle up when hunting after not shooting, lifting the bolt, move rifle, the bolt would fall open and eject the round.
Definitely prefer the 'safety hole' half cock style while bush hunting. The bolt is locked in a neutral position.

Yep that safety hole, where the bolt is locked in a natural position is what I'm hoping to achieve. But it will be a different mod on the 700 bolt, with hopefully similar function.

Double post

A positive half-bolt position on the M700 is easy to achieve simply by grinding about .020" (0.5mm) off the front face of the sear engagement face of the striker lug (NOT the camming face of the striker), making sure to maintain the same angle and polish the surface when ground. This position does not utilise the safety catch but is the accepted method of carry when close to game.

Originally Posted by Shot Bro

Just another layer of safe while stalking. It's pretty easy to disengage the safety on my Christensen Arms Messa. I really enjoyed stalking with my mates half open/cock set up

It's safer to keep the rifle at home in the safe than to fuck around with the bolt...

Originally Posted by caberslash

It's safer to keep the rifle at home in the safe than to fuck around with the bolt...

Well yeah that’s pretty much safer than any type of firearms use lol.

Just remember, putting in a half bolt slot, or disengaging the safety in any modern style bolt action means you can kiss goodbye to any warrantee or guarantee for the rifle.

In fact teaching people to use a half bolt position in some designs, ie Savage 10/110 series of rifle is f**king dangerous, as the gun will still fire as the handle drops down.

Its a New Zealand thing it seems. Old granddad did it on his Lee Enfield, so I'll do it on my modern Tikka/Remington.

Arguing over the use of half cock has been done to death. This thread is about a specific action type and whether it can safely be done to it. Let’s leave it at that aye.

Originally Posted by dogmatix

The Lee Enfield legacy lives on and refuses to die.

Greetings @dogmatix and all,
I had not seen half cock on bolt action rifles mentioned fo a bit and hoped it had died a natural death. Back in the .303 days the Lee Enfield had both a half cock notch and a safety catch. Neither was very good and the rifle could fife from either position with a sharp blow to the cocking peice such as in a fall. Having the firing pin down on a loaded chamber was even worse. Due to this the Mountain Safety Council teaching was to use a half open bolt (position of semi readyness) when close to game. This is where the cartridge is held by the extractor and the action part open. The firing pin main spring was uncompressed and it took two separate motions to be ready to fire, forward to compress the main spring and down to lock the action ready to fire. It was a safe although somewhat clumsy solution.
Time passed and some hunters started using Mauser rifles and even commercial hunting rifles. The distrust of safety catches hammered home by the MSC persisted and some started to carry their rifles in what they incorrectly called half cock. In this postion the bolt was fully forward and the mainspring compressed needing only the bolt to be lowered to fire. Some rifles, particularly Sako's, were reasonably stable in this position but this was never designed as a safe way to carry a rifle and it was not. In a stumble the bolt could easily be lowered without the hunter being aware of it. Butchering the rifle to improve things does not help mutch. The Mountain Safety Council dithered and failed to address the problem but for me the only way to carry a rifle when sneaking up on deer is with a chambered round and a regularly tested safety catch applied.
Regards Grandpamac.