Thread: Restrictions and conditions on an 'A' Category 50BMG?

Originally Posted by Savage1

Sadly I can't say what I really think here, it's in my contract, something about not bringing the police into disrepute.

Sorry @veitnamcam but I'm just a pleb, but I know I'll make my views known to my AO about this.

Maybe they've drawn a line on calibre regarding safe use, I'm sure if they issued a acat import permit for a howitzer they'd want some kind of conditions of use.

I was just a pleb but called my boss on his bullshit many times and stuck up for my workmates when unfairly duressed.
made things change and got promoted.

Would def give Nick a call.
Nicholas Taylor Barrister - Firearms Lawyer - Nicholas Taylor Barrister - Firearms Lawyer

This thread has been mentioned in a founz farcebook post (https://www.facebook.com/firearmowne...131702659416:0) and while like anything on Farcebook there are some silly comments. One that is interesting given who said it was "has colfo been informed?".

While I applaud NSA's line in the sand approach it can't hurt to also contact COLFO

Heard today of restrictions re importing 50s into the country as mentioned by the OP...

Has to go to Wellington to be approved, can't be done by local AOs.

Must have a "good reason" to require one....

Guess it might make mine worth more...Steyr HS 50 M1 50 BMG | Trade Me

But 416 barrett is still safe as? Oh thank goodness for that.

I get the feeling that this isn't going to be touched this side of the election for fear of creating a circus, and the muppets pushing this bullshit may get the proverbial punt to the cunt shortly after the election is done and dusted.

Say yes sir and then ignore it... their conditions are illegal for an A category firearm... and unenforceable...

Originally Posted by Tommy

But 416 barrett is still safe as? Oh thank goodness for that.

I get the feeling that this isn't going to be touched this side of the election for fear of creating a circus, and the muppets pushing this bullshit may get the proverbial punt to the cunt shortly after the election is done and dusted.

I dont follow this shit because I have a very low bullshit threshold but I hope you are correct.

Greg it is either A category or it isn't. If it is then I don't see what difference the calibre makes to the responsible ownership.

If they can make up the law as they go along, I'm going to make my own speed trap gun out of handee towel cardboard tubes and glitter and go out and start issuing my own tickets. Should clear a couple of grand an hour as I am also going to set my own speed limits ( dependent on proximity to Himalayan holidays ), you know, for "safety".

The NSA is watching these developments. The man himself is busy with exams but there are others keeping him informed

Originally Posted by Tommy

But 416 barrett is still safe as? Oh thank goodness for that.

I get the feeling that this isn't going to be touched this side of the election for fear of creating a circus, and the muppets pushing this bullshit may get the proverbial punt to the cunt shortly after the election is done and dusted.

which is ironic as the 416 is a more effective round.

its bull shit as far as I'm aware nothing in the arms code or arms act that says you can not shoot an a cat firearm anywhere you have permission and its safe to do so
there's nowhere to my knowledge in the arms code that says you may use your acat rifle (unless its a 50)
the only rule that stands here is the ones in the arms code about safe shooting practices a 50 is exactly the same as a 22 just your safe fireing zone needs to be a bit (a lot) bigger

sounds like another case of the Ao's trying to make there own rules and laws to me but then I'm no expert

Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter

The NSA is watching these developments. The man himself is busy with exams but there are others keeping him informed

Which man?

From a military perspective, we have range danger areas in place for all ranges (RDAs). This enables us to train in different areas safely. Most gazetted ranges are up to 7.62 only. .50 cal (or larger than 7.62) is usually written up on an individual exercise basis (static or moving), due to the extended over shoot area/dangers. So I could understand the reasoning behind restricting civilian firers to .50BMG (templated) ranges. I would hate to imagine someone having a crack at a dear/tgt with no ground to capture a .50cal round...not to say that you would, but I'm guessing NZPHQ needs to cater to the most dangerous when it comes to this stuff? A possible solution (at a stretch) would be to produce your own templates for where you intend to shoot, and get them approved?

The issue with templates, is where would you draw the line? .50 BMG is not the only round out there that potentially has a huge danger area. Everytime you fire a rifle on DOC land or even a farm, there is no guarantee that you are shooting into a truly safe back drop, it comes down to judgement and risk assessment.