Thread: retail gun prices

Originally Posted by shift14

Cash ( as in folding stuff )for some retailers is a pain because some are charged a cash handling fee by their bankers.

Being the simple man I am, I simply don't believe the smoke and mirrors bullshit from Beretta NZ about our dollar falling against the US, and using that to justify a price rise or two.
Last time I looked Sakos and Tikka's are made in Finland, which uses the Euro, and we've tracked well against that, when you look at the the cross rate graph Euro vs NZD for the last five years.
Check it out on xe.com

Am I missing something here ?

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Totally agree with you mate and thats why I said about the price think at the time. Wasn't surprised to Not get an answer...

My 2c worth i use to be in wholesale back in South Africa we did Savage Nosler Wheeler products etc. i was very familiar with the opposition prices. i knew the wholesale prices and the retail pricing of most shooting products.
My experience over the last year was a jaw dropper. Stuff in New Zealand is overall more expensive. i can tell you that the Baretta products are cheaper in comparison.

stuff like berger ,night force ,reloading powder , nosler Hornady is very expensive ...
i came to the conclusion that it starts with the importer that wants to be n millionaire on every product he sells to the retailer. Saying that that is about in every industry in NZ
Maybe that is how its so pose to be anyway they making good profits.

i know theres a lot of haters out there but ive never paid the full price on anything from gun city so i go back there

Originally Posted by northdude

i know theres a lot of haters out there but ive never paid the full price on anything from gun city so i go back there

It's easy for them to give you a "deal" when the full price is minimium 10% higher than the next guy

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

It's easy for them to give you a "deal" when the full price is minimium 10% higher than the next guy

when ive bought stuff off them theyve bettered any price ive gone to them with not just equaled it

Generally I buy ALL my stuff from a single supplier, I expect a fair price and good service. Nothing more or less

To be fair there have only been 2 items I have not brought there, a NF scope where there was a misunderstanding over price being GST inclusive and just recently a pair of top end binos.

With the binos there was no way I expected them to even attempt to match the price as it was a "smoking one" and even more interestingly a HF store (my employer supplies electronics to but not Nelson or Richmond) and the price was too sharp to turn down I'm afraid.

2nd hand or custom re rifles

I just spent $250k on some Finish hydraulic equipment. I had the suppliers quote over 12 months before we got around to ordering the gear, the price didn't change one iota. It's more than likely a case of the NZ distributor upping the anti on a very small pot.

Not sure if true for beretta but some company's trade in US dollars rather the euros yen pounds etc. Same for some freight company's as well

One of the problems a business comes across is growth and that can be bloody hard in a small competitive environment, especially selling firearms in NZ.

One of the major problems they encounter is www.guns4sale.com where the Joe average can source from overseas at better rates than buying in NZ.

They have probably done the number crunching and figured out a small increase in the price won't impact there profit but increase it. There are other ways of doing it but its bloody hard in a small market.

The business model seems to be, Importer/Agent marks up and flicks on to the Distributor who then marks it up and flicks it on the the Wholesaler who then marks it up and passes it on to the Retailer.
Importer/Agent, Distributor and Wholesaler are all separate companies but owned by the same guy.
Not a bad lurk but goes a long way to explaining why NZ is such a rip off.

Originally Posted by Steve123

The business model seems to be, Importer/Agent marks up and flicks on to the Distributor who then marks it up and flicks it on the the Wholesaler who then marks it up and passes it on to the Retailer.
Importer/Agent, Distributor and Wholesaler are all separate companies but owned by the same guy.
Not a bad lurk but goes a long way to explaining why NZ is such a rip off.

What are names of the companies at each step?

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Originally Posted by stretch

What are names of the companies at each step?

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Too numerous to mention, in most industries not just firearms.
A classic example would be Fletchers gouging the building industry from the forest to the finished product.
New yuppie term is " Vertical Intergration" instead of kiwi joker term " Rip Off Cunt".

Originally Posted by Steve123

Too numerous to mention, in most industries not just firearms

OK. I was hoping for something to substantiate your claim. For example, Gun City is owned by David Tipple and family: https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/314970

And Beretta NZ Ltd is owned by Martyn For and Beretta Australia PTY LTD in a 40/60 split: https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/1638372

Originally Posted by stretch

OK. I was hoping for something to substantiate your claim. For example, Gun City is owned by David Tipple and family: https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/314970

And Beretta NZ Ltd is owned by Martyn For and Beretta Australia PTY LTD in a 40/60 split: https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/1638372

Just my theory but since it's been published on the internet it must be true.