Thread: A right royal rogering - Nightforce

This might not work for Australia given the advice post, but the YouPost service NZ Post does allows you to get an item delivered 'locally' in a country and then forwarded to you in NZ. I've used it from the States to parallel import electronics for personal use.

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

DED was ripping NZ shooters off too, just buy from Australia

Sooo, if DED was ripping us off, what are Hardy doing?

I have eight claw hammers and four ballpein hammers in my garage..I have ne need for an oversized and overpriced heavy scope...therefore this issue doesnt effect me...if you dont like the price,dont buy it...if enough folks dont buy it,it will no longer be offered forsale at all.
if you seriously want to fix the issue...price it out from overseas then go to retailer here in NZ and ask them to match your total cost,if the ywill you buy local,if not,you buy it overseas and hope it never fails.

The inflated sales pitch has often seen the loss of agencies in the NZ sporting goods trade, usually resulting in a higher priced product and greatly reduced sales. It happened to me a couple of times and the manufacturers would have been kicking themselves as a result as my annual orders were many times greater than the new agents.

Originally Posted by 6x47

Sooo, if DED was ripping us off, what are Hardy doing?

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I have seen the wholesale price that retailers are buying for and the mark up is eye watering to say the least.

Originally Posted by ariki

I have seen the wholesale price that retailers are buying for and the mark up is eye watering to say the least.

@ariki ballpark percentage...?

Pffft just as good scopes to be had here in NZ at those prices. Don't see me buying one form the nz distributor any time soon.

Originally Posted by 6x47

DED had a well-established agency and it was suddenly without explanation ripped from under them. The way I "heard it", Hardy gave NF USA the big sales pitch while at the Shot Show. However it came about, I don't think the change did NF any favour in the end given the inevitable volume reduction with highly increased prices here.

Probably much the same as when DED acquired the S&B agency, prices went up considerably, so much so that I sold my two year old scope for more than I paid for it.


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Originally Posted by gundoc

The inflated sales pitch has often seen the loss of agencies in the NZ sporting goods trade, usually resulting in a higher priced product and greatly reduced sales. It happened to me a couple of times and the manufacturers would have been kicking themselves as a result as my annual orders were many times greater than the new agents.

I have worked extensively in the import business (not firearms, but tech), as both a retailer, a distributor and for a vendor (manufacturer). The cold hard truth is NZ sales amount to sweet fa of nothing. For most vendors operating in NZ is simply not worth it, and the NZ distees buy less than a typical single store in the USA. And that was in tech, not the firearms market where I suspect rules and regulations make it more difficult.

I wonder whether Hardy supply NF to the military? That may be why they don't care too much about reasonable prices for the civilian market.

Talking to a nightforce distributor a few years ago, I got explained that nightforce policy was usually 25% margin for the distributor and 25% to the retailer . Maybe the sales of nightforce scope in NZ are a drop in the ocean and that the big brass at NF have bigger fish to fry elsewhere than worry about a dozen complaints from the bottom of the pacific ocean…

My understanding is that NF scopes supplied to the nzdf go through a different channel,but I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by Friwi

My understanding is that NF scopes supplied to the nzdf go through a different channel,but I could be wrong.

You are probably right. From the little I know, military procurement is taught as a dark art at Hogwarts.