Russian firearm appreciation thread

[johnd]

That one was from GC Christchurch, they listed it on Trademe and a mate sent me the link knowing full well I wouldn't be able to resist it! It shoots incredibly accurately and with very impressive consistency. Check out these 15 x 5 shot groups shot at 50m while adjusting the scope, and that's just with cheap bulk ammo

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Well Done on the Biathlon! Been looking myself for a few yrs. I would settle for the Sabel/ Sobol version or at a pinch the SV99.
I ended up with the Ipssc version and it itches that scratch.

My Russian yarn
I had the dreaded baikal o/U 12 gauge. Man did they have tight chokes. I could take rabbits clean, out to 60 yards. One night I was shooting with another guy that only had a 22. He got really annoyed at me,must have snatched a dozen from under his nose before we separated onto our respective blocks.

[johnd]

Yes the ISSC was a direct copy of the Izhmash toggle action but in general it was awful, I had one about 7 years ago and had problems out of the box, once that was sorted I found it would only group HV ammo well so sold it on as I was only interested in shooting subs.

That's interesting, mine shoots subs ...maybe1/2 inch at 50 yds I have the suppressor on it. The trigger is the let down for me.

[Friwi]

I threaded a toz barrel yesterday, cut at 13*inches. Probably the worst out of concentricity contour with the Chinese production. I will try to post picture tomorrow.

[Vault]

Baikal 7.62x39

Killed rabbits, hares, goats, pigs, a fallow, half a doz wild sheep, half a doz wild bulls

[Mintie]

Baikal 7.62x39

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That's a lot of meat from one rifle!

Leshiy was out in fine form this morning, but on the opposite end of the scale to you Vault.

[RabbitStu]

I’m looking at another Baikal but in .410 if anyone has one.

[john m]

Baikal 12 ga coach gun.

[Mintie]

Loving the double hammers on that coach!

[Vault]

The most accurate 22lr i ever owned was a toz17 but it was stolen from my dads care maybe 20 years ago, a friend of mine purchased the same .odel toz with the bolt rhat can be cocked/decocked and it was just as accurate, i did some research and learnt that all the Toz17's that had the thick muzzle had target barrels, when threaded for a suppressor a steal parker hale fit perfectly.

The Baikal above, its a mates, it stacked 123gr sst at 100m, i could group moa at 200m with it, trigger was polished by rhe owner it had a hardys suppressor and leupold 1.5-5x20 which always sat on 2x. Best 200m and bush gun ive ever used.

But best Russian Ive ever owned, regret selling, even dream of is Edgun Veles, amazing piece of airgunning equipment, i could head shoot rabbits at 50m off hand with it consistently and that was without the pistol scope.. just amazing air pistol.

[Micky Duck]

I inherited this Baikal U/O from my grandfather when he passed earlier this year. It was his shotgun of choice for as long as I can remember as a kid, he may have got it new in the 70s I’m not sure. I would borrow it when I walked the farm in the evening looking for bunnies before I bought my own guns.
The rest of the family had fancier guns, Italian jobs, Remingtons or new pumps, and would ask him when he was going to replace that old Russian thing. He later bought a new maverick 88 pump but I never saw him use it. It was always the trusty old Russian.
When I picture grandad on the farm, he’d be wearing his swandri and gumboots, with the Baikal open over one arm. He’d look over and say ‘any ducks out there m’boy?’ I think because he couldn’t see them half the time.
I’ll probably never use it again, but I’ll never sell it either.

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USE IT.....beautiful guns and they still work just as well if not better than flash jobbies. I even use lighter than 34hrm loads of smaller than #2 steel loads through mine....

[Micky Duck]

I’m looking at another Baikal but in .410 if anyone has one.

no you cant have mine LOL.

[johnd]

That's a lot of meat from one rifle!

Leshiy was out in fine form this morning, but on the opposite end of the scale to you Vault.

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Do you get the back steaks from those @Mintie or just roast the tails like lamb

[Mintie]

Do you get the back steaks from those @Mintie or just roast the tails like lamb

I gyt them then hang them whole to dry out, nothing beats Rat biltong.

[kotuku]

I was very fortunate to buy a baikal single trigger O/U12g from c404 some years asgo .hed had the chokes opened out to half

.that sexy wee russian princess ,like my beloved escort s/a12g are my frontline shotties .Ive lost count of the number of feral geese whove met their doom arseshot by the russian as they awoke and tried to gain altitude too late to see crazed dwarf with huge bangstick hovering over them .lurking bac k in my cabinet is yes a genuine toz17 .22 with manders suppresor fitted -a gun which has delivered 100s of final contraceptive shots (lblow job -fatal) to spitting snarling horny buck jackos.by my reckoning the toz is coming 50yrs in my hands .
say what you like about rusky guns but iwouldnt part with either of mine -do bother asking .
incidentally the princess joined my outing today better to fondle than any female.and it dont harass me if if..k up.yes my outing was to ellesmere recceing geese .on way home bugger me passes a house which has a fullsize replica P51 mustang fighter plane on a plinth in the back yard .
gone trop you aware of this .on just over the akaroa /lincoln -lake rd intersection R side dark grey industrial style building.

[Huntertoo]

My old man bought a Baikal sxs 12g from King and Henry, Masterton in early seventies. Had to let the ducks get away a bit further before firing as they weren't worth picking up. Choke gauge wouldn't fit. Super tight. Me shooting a rabbit out at 87 teenage paces, still a very long way.
The old man tripped and the butt split just behind the pistol grip when he hit the ground, not loaded, but waited for two years to get a replacement.
Within a week of turning sixteen and getting my FA licence I bought a Toz 17. I still have it. Thousands of rabbits have fallen to this rifle.
Most things dwelling on the ground including Pigs and a deer which stopped just that once at close range to have a quick look back.
In 1980 I sent the toz away for a suppressor thread. Note came back that the steel was stupidity hard and the threading came out in chips.
Took the suppressor ok.
I took the magazine apart for cleaning and decided that I could trim the plate guides a bit, that way I could fit an extra cartridge in the mag. Worked ok.
Currently have a Mh18 single shot in 222. Customed to me. Tack driver. Got pissed with the trigger and ended up drilling back side of it and installing a brass screw so now its adjustable. Completely different animal. Happy to behind the ear on deer to to 200 no trouble.
It may look ugly but its mine and it works.

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