Thread: Sad Commentary on Life and Balance.

If you look at the numbers on the article, 3602 were airguns, imitation or starter pistols and not firearms by Act definition.

Of course they had to include a bit about the registry. Gotta put that there to convince people that it will do something useful. A registry is most definitely useful if the firearm is stolen, illegally manufactured or imported. Even if a firearm is sold illegally no one will know about it for up to a decade if the serial number is removed.
I wonder how many firearms could be seized if they allocated the funding towards cracking down on illegal firearms?

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

I believe if you are pulled over for any reason and a regi check shows the registered owner has a fal that is flagged as "firearms" for the officers conducting the stop.

I had that during covid wife and I on bike.
I see you've got firearms.
Not hard to see we obviously didn't have any on our bike.

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Most times when they qp me they ask if I have any firearms in the car. Had one cop proceed to try and open a rear door to search the car after I told him none were in the car. Said to him Im pretty sure you need a search warrant to do that. Tone changed and I was able to carry on

This manufactured histeria is identical to the articles I used to read in the UK 25 years ago. It's a formula of sensational articles,graphs for the weak of mind,assurance from the Police that everything would be so much better if they only had more control over guns.

The media needs more clicks since they lost the direct government funding they used to enjoy,the Cops need the support of the gen pop or their job becomes impossible.

The horse has bolted regarding illegal use of firearms in New Zealand,the drug business so lucrative that if they can't source what they need locally they will simply import them.

Guns will never be banned in NZ same like the UK. The politicians and Police need someone to blame. If they ban guns,then firearms crime will continue and they powers at be will appear incompetent via their previous restrictions.

Originally Posted by blip

Most times when they qp me they ask if I have any firearms in the car. Had one cop proceed to try and open a rear door to search the car after I told him none were in the car. Said to him Im pretty sure you need a search warrant to do that. Tone changed and I was able to carry on

They don't need a seach warrant for a car, doesn't apply to vechiles.
The police can enter and search any place or vehicle, if they have reason to suspect that there are firearms, ammunition, explosives or restricted weapons that are there in violation of the Arms Act 1983.

I wonder why he backed off then?

Search away buddy, Nothing to hide here.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

I believe if you are pulled over for any reason and a regi check shows the registered owner has a fal that is flagged as "firearms" for the officers conducting the stop.

I didn't realize that. I'll be more vigilant about locking my guns to the vehicle when transporting them

Originally Posted by Longrun

I didn't realize that. I'll be more vigilant about locking my guns to the vehicle when transporting them

That is not a requirement. Bolt out, ammo locked up, ammo and bolt seperate, gun out of sight.

Oh, I see that's a recommendation rather than a requirement

Originally Posted by BRADS

They don't need a seach warrant for a car, doesn't apply to vechiles.
The police can enter and search any place or vehicle, if they have reason to suspect that there are firearms, ammunition, explosives or restricted weapons that are there in violation of the Arms Act 1983.

Your car is for all intents and purposes the same as your house - they cannot search it without a warrant unless they suspect a reasonably serious crime has been committed, not a speeding ticket or minor traffic violation. And they need to give 7 days notice of doing so. COLFO and Nick Taylor the solicitor have posted comprehensive info on what Plod can and cant do, and what your rights are.

Originally Posted by Tahr

That is not a requirement. Bolt out, ammo locked up, ammo and bolt seperate, gun out of sight.

Modern outdoor clothing with chest pockets for phones is awesome. bolt out of gun, straight in pocket, ammo into the container and gun behind the seats out of sight and done. If I leave car to get fuel, bolts with me and can't be nicked.

I see Counties Manukau tops the list for shootings, yet it does not have a very high percentage of licensed firearms owners. The area does have a very high percentage of unmentionables, however.

Originally Posted by Husky1600#2

Your car is for all intents and purposes the same as your house - they cannot search it without a warrant unless they suspect a reasonably serious crime has been committed, not a speeding ticket or minor traffic violation. And they need to give 7 days notice of doing so. COLFO and Nick Taylor the solicitor have posted comprehensive info on what Plod can and cant do, and what your rights are.

Thats what I thought