Thread: Scope recommendations

Originally Posted by Carbine

$800 locally if you cant wait, pretty impressive with a lifetime warranty

Ive got one on the way to play with. Not sure why. I just like experimenting with solid looking new brands:

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If you want to shoot far and have bang on dialling but cannot afford a NF i think there is only one other option and that is sightron. Even the STACs which you can get for sub $1k new if.you can find are more reliable than other popular scopes retailing for more than double.
Just my 2c, Certainly no expert but spent alot of hrs sending lead a long way down range

Originally Posted by Tahr

Ive got one on the way to play with. Not sure why. I just like experimenting with solid looking new brands:

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U have gone from knives to scopes U have a addiction healthy though

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Originally Posted by Tahr

Ive got one on the way to play with. Not sure why. I just like experimenting with solid looking new brands:

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Cameraland explicitly state they don't ship scopes internationally on their website, I guess they are lying.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Cameraland explicitly state they don't ship scopes internationally on their website, I guess they are lying.

Just order and when you check out click on country and you will see that they ship to New Zealand, Australia and I think South Africa.

Originally Posted by NRT

U have gone from knives to scopes U have a addiction healthy though

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No. I do both

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Cameraland explicitly state they don't ship scopes internationally on their website, I guess they are lying.

Just got my Burris off them

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Got a zeiss hd5 3-15x42 could be for sale if your interested? @Haydenp

Capped or exposed?

Exposed, had for bout 5 years

Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Only one scope brand that you don't have to do a tall target test on eh EBF!

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Yeah the kahles scopes are good.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

What is that chart even trying to measure? X axis just says #scopes??

the top line is the scope number tested.
razor gen1 next line down shows the 12 scopes tested and each result.

Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

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see this chart, even super expensive scopes do not always dial 100% accurate

I zero at 600 yards and everything closer is fine, never spent more than 1k on a scope and I shoot reliable groups to that distance.

I've had fair dialing from cheaper scopes but the question for me is how well it still works when its 5 years and 2000 308 rounds down the track.

Compared to 20 years ago, we now expect scopes to do a lot of things we didn't then:
Dial accurately.
Dial and return to zero
Reticle markings accurate at all magnifications.
No zero shift when changing magnification.
Parallax adjustment, accurate, reproducible, plus no change in point of impact.
waterproof (yes, most weren't back in the day)
Huge magnification zoom. In the day, Leupold scopes went 2.5x (eg2.5-6.5) and that was considered "state of" . Now its embarrassing if you're only offering 3-12x.
Larger objective, bigger field of view, better light transmission, sharper higher contrast image, higher mag.

So, what can you do without if you have a budget ?
Dialling is the first. You do still need good adjustments but only for sighting in once in a blue moon and they don't really have to match the reticle or be exact on paper as long as they hold zero through bumps heat cold and lots of shots.
Parallax is next.
Wide zoom range >4x
Top Mag >12x
Leaving off these features makes it a lot easier for the manufacturer to produce a high quality functional optic for under $1000.

I'd rather have a long established top brand with modest specs than a 5 year old company offering a "lifetime warranty" on a scope with every spec.

The great thing about the 270Win is its flat shooting and hard hitting, which gives you margin to do without a rangefinder and dialling (within reason say up to 250m).

Originally Posted by ebf

Haha. Bro, even the mythical NF scopes can me mounted skew... That one is more a test of the installer getting it level than the turrets being accurate

Hey ebf yes they can be mounted skew but you never ever have to do a tall target test on any to confirm the elevation correction factor.
Apparently one of the very few brands in the market that does not need it.
This info is from the people that actually do this work testing high end optics for military use.

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