Thread: Scope Selection help needed. 223 varmant shooting. Shafted by redfield suppliers

.223 Remington
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Interesting it says that fmj is the best for killing

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Originally Posted by smidey

so what's the issue? i have a pack of hornady 223 55gr and the box says 3240fps. that info you see above is from a drop table selection listing hundreds of factory ammo types. from that table there are several horandy 223 rounds with 3240fps.

I'm not sure what i'm missing, can you enlighten me?

Typically the velocities printed on the boxes are massively inflated. I have seen variances of over 400fps.

I will be pretty surprised if your load is actually doing over 3000fps.

Ok sweet, I have no way of knowing either way but that's what it says

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Originally Posted by smidey

Ok sweet, I have no way of knowing either way but that's what it says

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Borrow the forum Chrony if you're really interested :-)

I've also found that box ammo has a whole lot of bullshit written over it (mate's .270 stuff said 3000fps on the box, chrony' d at a sluggish 2600!)

Hand loaded .223 will happily hum at 3200 though. I might know a good reloading guy for you if you're interested...


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You can borrow mine if you want, I need to run some loads through it too and I am just up the road. Pm me if you keen to use it sometime.

I guess the issue is knowing what's right and what's bullshit. I wonder how much info is accurate.

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Originally Posted by Spudattack

You can borrow mine if you want, I need to run some loads through it too and I am just up the road. Pm me if you keen to use it sometime.

Thanks very much, I'll do that. I've found that Hornady training works well in my 223 and I'm using the strelok app for my vortex scope so if I know what the speed actually is it should make it more accurate for the yardage of the bdc markers.
I'm waiting on some more ammo to arrive so I'll contact you when I'm ready thanks

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So this is what strelok tells me three markers should be for my Hornady training based on a guess of 2700GPS rather than the 3250 or what ever the box says.
I get to actually test the ammo on Sunday, looking forward to it a lot.

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Learning so much about ballistics etc, really enjoying it
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Originally Posted by Proudkiwi

What chrony did you use to get that velocity for the 55gr power shok load?

Seems wildly...........optimistic!

@Proudkiwi
I put some rounds through the chrony today at the Whangarei DSA range.
Hornady 223 REM 55gr SP item #80255. My older boxes with "TRAINING" have the same item number, new box labels don't state training.
Ruger American All Weather SS 22" barrel 1:8 twist
3120
3114
3124
3119
3128
3144
3174
3175
3184
3181
3171
Avg: 3148.5

The final 3 rounds grouped like this at 100m

@Spudattack - thanks so much for the invite and use of your chrony, had an awesome time.

No worries, was a great day! Good to meet you guys too!

Originally Posted by smidey

@Proudkiwi
I put some rounds through the chrony today at the Whangarei DSA range.
Hornady 223 REM 55gr SP item #80255. My older boxes with "TRAINING" have the same item number, new box labels don't state training.
Ruger American All Weather SS 22" barrel 1:8 twist
3120
3114
3124
3119
3128
3144
3174
3175
3184
3181
3171
Avg: 3148.5

The final 3 rounds grouped like this at 100m

@Spudattack - thanks so much for the invite and use of your chrony, had an awesome time.

That's much better than I expected. A very usable velocity from factory ammo that clearly shoots well in your rifle. Good times

Originally Posted by Proudkiwi

That's much better than I expected. A very usable velocity from factory ammo that clearly shoots well in your rifle. Good times

i looked on the hornady website the other day and read they test the velocity with a 24" barrel so perhaps that would be a little quicker retaining it a little longer.

First time shooting at a range today and am very happy with what i can do and knowing it's sighted in spot on is great.

So this is what strelok tells me is the go with the speed info


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