Thread: scope suggestions for 22 mag

Originally Posted by Hermitage

What scopes are being made in South Korea?
I thought it went China (low mid), Philippines (high mid), Japan/USA/Germany/Austria (high)?

https://riflescope-review.com/where-...-manufactured/

Surprisingly high proportion of Bushnell's line up is now made in Korea.

Also surprisingly, Bushnell Forge line is made in China. This line is not mid-low end, it is mid-high end. Priced similarly to Leupold VX5HD and got some pretty good reviews.

For those old enough to remember Graham Henry’s writings in Rod & Rifle magazine years ago , then you may remember a story he told of the inexperienced guy in the gunshop procrastinating over which scope to buy . The cheap $100 scope or the expensive/quality $500 one .
The salesman started to get annoyed at the indecisive buyer and said “ Look the cheap one will cost you $600 and the expensive one $500 , so hurry up and make a decision “
The customer looked confused and said “that doesn’t sound right, how come the cheap one costs more “
“Well the cheap one will cost you $100 now and then another $500 in a months time when you come back for the expensive one “

It’s fair enough to say that the average cheap rimfire doesn’t deserve or need an expensive scope , is your new 22mag an average cheap rimfire?

Originally Posted by Ftx325

I have just found the VIXEN brand for sale by reloader supplies and I like the look of the V1 4-16 version they have advertised .
Japanese made , side focus , bdc style reticle and the few reviews I can find on the brand are very positive on the glass clarity and brightness , including an older thread from the forum .
Any one have any more up to date experience with these scopes ?

Quite a few people on this forum have had it, and you can also find a few that have been passed on.

The only issue with them is the tiny amount of elevation adjustment range (by 2021 standard) - which may not be an issue for a 22Mag that is only intended to shoot about 100 metres.

Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

The only issue with them is the tiny amount of elevation adjustment range (by 2021 standard) - which may not be an issue for a 22Mag that is only intended to shoot about 100 metres.

that is my thinking also re usable range being quite short so not needing huge dial up potential .
And the price seems realistic for a new one considering the features and the positive comments I've read . And with my fading eyes I would like a bit more zoom and side focus .
And not being chinese is a plus

Originally Posted by Ground Control

For those old enough to remember Graham Henry’s writings in Rod & Rifle magazine years ago , then you may remember a story he told of the inexperienced guy in the gunshop procrastinating over which scope to buy . The cheap $100 scope or the expensive/quality $500 one .
The salesman started to get annoyed at the indecisive buyer and said “ Look the cheap one will cost you $600 and the expensive one $500 , so hurry up and make a decision “
The customer looked confused and said “that doesn’t sound right, how come the cheap one costs more “
“Well the cheap one will cost you $100 now and then another $500 in a months time when you come back for the expensive one “

It’s fair enough to say that the average cheap rimfire doesn’t deserve or need an expensive scope , is your new 22mag an average cheap rimfire?

Ah , no @Ground Control , as you know .... About as far from cheap and ordinary as it gets.....
The rolls royce of rimfires was used to describe it.

The only leupy that does anything for me is nigh on $1300 odd new though.... The vx3 with side focus and illuminated , assuming I can find one with a bdc style reticle.
The vixen seems to have a good reputation and all it's missing is illumination but I have never really had any issues without a pretty little light before so think I could live without it.
And at $520 new the vixen sounds pretty good for the money...
Which is something I am suddenly short of... thanks to the roller parked in the safe

2nd the Vixen, Put 4-16 on son's 223, felt it's great value for money.
https://www.scopeuout.co.nz/collecti...duplex-reticle 2-8x32
or
https://www.scopeuout.co.nz/collecti...duplex-reticle 3-12x40
Think I got mine from Reloaders for a good price.
Z

Thanks zq .. it's the 4-16 I was considering from reloaders with side focus .
No issues with your son's one?

You certainly don't need this level of optic tech with short range 22LR or 22 magnum rimfires for an efficient hunter. Gadgetman and I have Marlin 22WMRs that will shoot one big hole out of the centre of a 22mmm orange dot at 50m on the range, and are very effective hunters in the field. Coincidentally they are wearing the same scopes - basic Tasco World Class 4-16s. Very effective range and hunter combos. I think his scope remains on about 4x while mine sits on 5-6x - and they seldom move from that. That's because - at least in our Cantab shooting environment - you will rarely have time to stop, tweak your AO, dial up distance etc. Normally seconds only esp for night shooting. Do you need to spend 2-3k for a very effective WMR hunter setup? No.

But....it is also valid to enjoy spending coin and buy the best available piece of kit and fancy optics - simply for the fun of it. Good to own and experiment with a beautifully machined rifle . My hobby is sports cars - absolutely unnecessary to have all that extra performance and handling - but alot of fun.

Originally Posted by mudgripz

You certainly don't need this level of optic tech with short range 22LR or 22 magnum rimfires for an efficient hunter. Gadgetman and I have Marlin 22WMRs that will shoot one big hole out of the centre of a 22mmm orange dot at 50m on the range, and are very effective hunters in the field. Coincidentally they are wearing the same scopes - basic Tasco World Class 4-16s. Very effective range and hunter combos. I think his scope remains on about 4x while mine sits on 5-6x - and they seldom move from that. That's because - at least in our Cantab shooting environment - you will rarely have time to stop, tweak your AO, dial up distance etc. Normally seconds only esp for night shooting. Do you need to spend 2-3k for a very effective WMR hunter setup? No.

But....it is also valid to enjoy spending coin and buy the best available piece of kit and fancy optics - simply for the fun of it. Good to own and experiment with a beautifully machined rifle . My hobby is sports cars - absolutely unnecessary to have all that extra performance and handling - but alot of fun.

yep , I know what you are saying and agree totally re to many controls etc and no time to use them all . Hence a BDC type reticle rather than dialing , particularly if I end up using different rounds for differing jobs . And the ranges I expect to be using it will vary from point blank to 100+ on little targets so would like the 4-12 or 16 but think side focus/parallax would also help my tired eyes see clearer out longer range with rabbits ...

Originally Posted by Ftx325

yep , I know what you are saying and agree totally re to many controls etc and no time to use them all . Hence a BDC type reticle rather than dialing , particularly if I end up using different rounds for differing jobs . And the ranges I expect to be using it will vary from point blank to 100+ on little targets so would like the 4-12 or 16 but think side focus/parallax would also help my tired eyes see clearer out longer range with rabbits ...

The main thing with eyes will be ocular adjustment, till you need to use glasses as well, to get the reticle in focus.

Originally Posted by mudgripz

You certainly don't need this level of optic tech with short range 22LR or 22 magnum rimfires for an efficient hunter. Gadgetman and I have Marlin 22WMRs that will shoot one big hole out of the centre of a 22mmm orange dot at 50m on the range, and are very effective hunters in the field. Coincidentally they are wearing the same scopes - basic Tasco World Class 4-16s. Very effective range and hunter combos. I think his scope remains on about 4x while mine sits on 5-6x - and they seldom move from that. That's because - at least in our Cantab shooting environment - you will rarely have time to stop, tweak your AO, dial up distance etc. Normally seconds only esp for night shooting. Do you need to spend 2-3k for a very effective WMR hunter setup? No.

But....it is also valid to enjoy spending coin and buy the best available piece of kit and fancy optics - simply for the fun of it. Good to own and experiment with a beautifully machined rifle . My hobby is sports cars - absolutely unnecessary to have all that extra performance and handling - but alot of fun.

Well look what I have just done
Put a circa $1500 scope on our mates Browning .22LR

Why - because none of you ~~~~~ will buy it :-(
Man is it nice :-)

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Why - because none of you ~~~~~ will buy it :-(

Just as well

There are now probably more people shooting 22LR at 200 meters than there are with 17hmr and 22wmr. Not uncommon to see mid-high end scopes on 22LR guns.

On a related note, when is Richard Utting going to come out with his Delta Javelin review that he promised in a video a while ago? I want to see some more reviews and comparisons (with, for example, Bushnell XRSII 4.5-30 that is currently only 2499) before pulling the trigger.

Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

Just as well

There are now probably more people shooting 22LR at 200 meters than there are with 17hmr and 22wmr. Not uncommon to see mid-high end scopes on 22LR guns.

On a related note, when is Richard Utting going to come out with his Delta Javelin review that he promised in a video a while ago? I want to see some more reviews and comparisons (with, for example, Bushnell XRSII 4.5-30 that is currently only 2499) before pulling the trigger.

Good question
He did say in the Delta Bino LRF clip that he wanted to give it a full on test over their winter
So - I imagine any day now
Lock down been bad over there too mind you :-(

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Well look what I have just done
Put a circa $1500 scope on our mates Browning .22LR

Why - because none of you ~~~~~ will buy it :-(
Man is it nice :-)

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if it was three digits rather than four I'd buy it @Sarvo...... (subtle hint?)

Ftx - if you're really keen to part with coin I've got a Kilwell Huntsman here with two turrets and a winding bit with numbers on it. Yours for $1500. Only 2 dents.

Can come in roof green or kitchen blue if you want something original and handpainted....that'd be an extra $400.