Thread: Short barreled 7 saum or .284 win

Hey guys after opinions from people that are running
Short barreled versions of these like 18-20 inches
For a general hunting rifle, thinking either a t3 in 7-08
Then ream it or factory model 7 saum, either
Way it's a budget conscious build.

Cheers

Shaka is using a 22" Saum with 168 Bergers at about 2950 FPS if that helps.

18in 300wsm 150s @ 3110


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16 inch saum 140bt @ 3000fps
20 inch saum 162am @3000fps
22 inch saum 162am @3080fps
22 inch saum 180vld@ 3000fps

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

16 inch saum 140bt @ 3000fps
20 inch saum 162am @3000fps
22 inch saum 162am @3080fps
22 inch saum 180vld@ 3000fps

Have you tried the 150 long range accubonds?

In my model 7 7 SAUM I use the 140 accubond as the spook and shoot load and then 162 amax for the long range load. My velocities aren't as high as 7mmsaum, but they can probably go higher with some further development. ( I was seating the projectiles too long and really jamming them, now seating them deeper but haven't tried upping the powder again).
Brass for the 7SAUM can be a bit hard to find, there is Nosler custom, but most seem to neck down 300 SAUM brass.
Kills the animals well, but probably no different from the 284.
I could probably be tempted to part with mine, I've now got a 708, 7x57, 7SAUM and 7RUM, a little bit of 7mm overkill!

Originally Posted by camo wsm

Have you tried the 150 long range accubonds?

I have. In the .284, no nonsense accuracy in a 20" barrel.
I rate the ease to load this calibre and brass is quality and easy to find. Haven't chrony yet but I guess my very mild accurate load would easily be 2900fps.
I Very nearly opted for the Shehane or the 7Saum but I am very satisfied with my decision.

Originally Posted by camo wsm

Have you tried the 150 long range accubonds?

Yes

22 inch saum 140 AB/BT @3200fps
22 inch saum 150 LRAB @ 3150fps

22" barrelled Tikka M595 .284

Load 54gr of 2209 makes a 150 Nosler ballistic tip go 2900 - 2950fps.

Good all round calibre and bullet.

Kj

Maybe, but a mate who is running a 19" tube is getting 2980 without major pressure signs. 2800-2900 with this good accuracy is a happy setup for me anyway.

I went for the 284 over the 7mm saum mainly for the brass selection - lapua and it would do everything I wanted to 10m - 600M , I went the rechambered t3 7mm08 route which was cheap and easy , cut barrel down to 19 mm , wacked on a can and NF 2.5 -10×42 and use the 150grn LRAB to 2970fp .Just got back from down the line shot 7 deer from 240m to just over 500m and it went perfect the only thing I might change is the scope , a bit more magnification would be nice as I passed up a nice fallow stag at 625m

Originally Posted by von tempsky fan

I went for the 284 over the 7mm saum mainly for the brass selection - lapua and it would do everything I wanted to 10m - 600M , I went the rechambered t3 7mm08 route which was cheap and easy , cut barrel down to 19 mm , wacked on a can and NF 2.5 -10×42 and use the 150grn LRAB to 2970fp .Just got back from down the line shot 7 deer from 240m to just over 500m and it went perfect the only thing I might change is the scope , a bit more magnification would be nice as I passed up a nice fallow stag at 625m

More long range practise with the scope you are using now will see you right, i have the same scope on a 7mm08 and have no problem hitting an A4 sheet of paper at 1000yrds.

Practise practise practise

But i do commend anyone passing up a shot if things don't feel right on the day.

your right I do need more practice , I wasn't confident in taking the 625m shot so passed it up it was nice at the end of the day watch him try round up some of the girls.

Originally Posted by von tempsky fan

I went for the 284 over the 7mm saum mainly for the brass selection - lapua and it would do everything I wanted to 10m - 600M , I went the rechambered t3 7mm08 route which was cheap and easy , cut barrel down to 19 mm , wacked on a can and NF 2.5 -10×42 and use the 150grn LRAB to 2970fp .Just got back from down the line shot 7 deer from 240m to just over 500m and it went perfect the only thing I might change is the scope , a bit more magnification would be nice as I passed up a nice fallow stag at 625m

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How long do suppressors last on these 18-20" barrel ones? Thats a fair bit of snort ripping out the end.