Thanks for the info guys!Sorry been at uni, Yeah my budget is around 1000ish, I really don't know too much when it comes to hunting rifles as i'm from an army family and most of my knowledge revolves around ww1-ww2 and some modern military firearms. Believe it or not I'm yet to even fire a gun! Being from the UK tends to hold ya back when it comes to hunting and shooting
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I asked on another thread about the howas and they seem to be quite good, I was unsure because 1. i've never heard of them and 2. They are japanese, I didn't even know they still made firearms for civvy use!
I was aiming for a proven american or eastern block brand(Like CZ), Would love a ruger or remmington but they seem to be out my budget, So I think it will be the howa 1500 and get a suppressor after I throw some shots downrange to get a feel for the rifle.
The Howas in 308 also come factory threaded so you will not have the extra fuss/expense of threading/recrowning when you come to getting a supressor. Much better finish and build quality than the axis or ruger american. The scope it comes with is pretty average, but will get you by until you can afford better.
Also dont forget to factor in some cash for some cleaning and maintenance bits and bobs, the little hidden extras add up.
If you want something proven like a cz, @garyp has a nice Brno 308 he is selling for around 7 hundy, spend the rest on a scope.
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Donot want to put a spanner in your works , BUT , if you have never fired a firearm before , then your 1st rifle should maybe be a rimfire bolt action , along the lines of a cheap chinese bruno , ie norinco etc , or a 2nd hand CZ452 etc .
You also need some training before being let loose .
Yours Chris
I agree I'd probably need a bit of coaching at first, But I don't see much point in getting a .22 if I'm planning on hunting, Especially deer and goats. I'd imagine it would be like when I started riding a motorcycle I had a 250 then a couple months later I was desperate for something bigger, Been on a 750 ever sinceI may get a .22 at some point for indoor shoots but that isn't what I'm wanting to do right now and seems like i'd be wasting money.
If he doesn't want to start on a .22 that's fine, he's a student, probably isn't earning that much money and more importantly it is more likely he can find and use peoples .22s who are willing to let him pop off 100s of rounds for free or for very cheap at indoor clubs with club guns. I agree he should get his practice in, but with limited funds and the end goal being goats and deer a .308 is the ticket.
Just make sure you get plenty of range time with the rifle before you take it hunting, go with someone who knows what they are doing, even shooting 'cheap fmj' before you zero with hunting loads will give you a feel for the rifle. Go down to a club or a mates farm and practice fundamentals with the .22.
People will spend your money quickly on this forum. Take their advice as it is sound in principle, but get the rifle you want, and get practice with a .22 without buying one.
Pretty much what you said is dead on what my thoughts are. I'm trying to do this on a budget and not to mention I know pretty much no one in the hunting and shooting scene here so I'm starting literally from the bottom. Been saving what little i get left over after paying for essentials, I also don't know anyone in my region who owns a farm, only a couple people up north from when I worked up there for a bit and i'm not driving 8 or so hours to shoot a .22! I was even considering getting an SKS and buying an old surplus spam can. But I'd rather get a good bolt gun, good scope like a leupold 3-9x40 and some low grain fmj rounds and heavier hollow hunting rounds and getting a feel for each by spending a whole lotta time at the range and learning that way. (I still may get an SKS one day because I love milsurps)
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I get the point, But I simply don't make much money,I'm a student and 90% of my money is gone after paying for rent, gas, food and other essentials. If money was no issue i'd get a .22lr like a 10/22 or something no questions asked, But I have one end goal to start with and it took me long enough to save up what I have already(Almost a year). No doubt i'd buy one for plinking at some point but I want more versatility. At the end of the day getting a .308 or something makes no real difference except it kicks harder and the ammo costs more, Practice is practice.
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