Thread: Silencer question

Ruger American with SSRNZ (Scott Traill) supprsessor...light and accurate and very economical

Indoor shoots

Originally Posted by Pengy

Indoor shoots

Indoor range here in welly for 22 rifles

You are spoilt

Originally Posted by Pengy

You are spoilt

Wellington Central Smallbore Rifle Club

Originally Posted by Pengy

You are spoilt

Shit mate we even have one in Te Puke

Originally Posted by Gibo

Shit mate we even have one in Te Puke

The only official range up here is open just the second sunday of the month, and caters for black powder,pistols, rimfire and centrefire all on the same day. It is outdoor, so a bit weather dependant, and it is just much easier to go a to a mates farm and use his setup. It only gets out to 100 safely, but that is fine. The only other restriction of course is stock in nearby paddocks

No offence but Chris is right. Learn to walk before you run. If you haven't shot a firearm before and plan to 'go hunting' you need practice. You need to learn to shoot. Learn where to shoot an animal to achieve a clean kill. The animals deserve it. Practicing with a centre fire is costly if you are buying ammo. I'd recommend taking a step back, buying a rimfire and practicing. Then joining local deerstalkers club and tagging along on hunts will be far more productive than just buying a 308 and expecting to go shoot stuff.

Originally Posted by JoshC

No offence but Chris is right. Learn to walk before you run. If you haven't shot a firearm before and plan to 'go hunting' you need practice. You need to learn to shoot. Learn where to shoot an animal to achieve a clean kill. The animals deserve it. Practicing with a centre fire is costly if you are buying ammo. I'd recommend taking a step back, buying a rimfire and practicing. Then joining local deerstalkers club and tagging along on hunts will be far more productive than just buying a 308 and expecting to go shoot stuff.

My plan was to get a couple hundred rounds (I've put money aside for some cheap FMJ stuff) and just spend a few days at the range over this way to get my bearings and zero the rifle, Most 22 clubs here don't shoot further than 25 yards. I've had plenty of practice with air rifles, pre charged rifles, crossbows in the past and when it comes to shot placement I know the basics of where to shoot on a deer, High shoulder to attempt to cause the spine to break or Behind the lower part of the shoulder blade to attempt double lung/heart shots and usually avoid headshots at longer distances due to the brain being a small target and you risk shooting its jaw and causing it to not be able to eat and slowly starve to death. I also intend on joining the deerstalkers and taking a wee course to learn stuff first hand as I really don't know any hunters personally, Restricted to watching tutorials and informational videos online!

You will only ever need one .308 in your life. Save the pennies, borrow from family, do layby ... What ever it takes ...but get the rifle you want.
Keep safe in the hills ... Gunzrrrr

1; I think everyone should use a .22lr (or rimfire of some sort) to get some general gun use experience before a centrefire. That would be my recommendation, however that's obviously entirely up to you. And seeing as you've had plenty of practice with air rifles I guess that would suffice
2; I would NOT buy the Savage Axis. Save a little longer and go for the Savage Trophy Hunter or similar priced guns (Howa for example are good guns for the money, as multiple people have already stated).

You don't need to buy a new rifle to get into hunting. I would say the vast majority started with a 2nd hand rifle or a hand me down rifle.

For your budget of $1000 you could quite easily find a reasonable condition common calibre scoped centre fire (243/308/270) and reasonable condition .22. Have you considered that?

Originally Posted by JoshC

You don't need to buy a new rifle to get into hunting. I would say the vast majority started with a 2nd hand rifle or a hand me down rifle.

For your budget of $1000 you could quite easily find a reasonable condition common calibre scoped centre fire (243/308/270) and reasonable condition .22. Have you considered that?

This is good advice, as I said earlier if you are patient you can find good second hand quality rifles, scoped and ready to go, for less than a new budget rifle.
PM garyp, the Brno he has is scoped for $700 and is the equivalent of a CZ550 which are $1700 odd new as a bare rifle.
I have just paid $700 for a Brno zkk600 that has fired 20 rounds and is like new, they are there if you look for them and ths would leave some cash for a cheap .22.

Choice is yours though, I went new rifle to start and ended up selling them and replacing them with old premium rifles!

Originally Posted by JoshC

You don't need to buy a new rifle to get into hunting. I would say the vast majority started with a 2nd hand rifle or a hand me down rifle.

For your budget of $1000 you could quite easily find a reasonable condition common calibre scoped centre fire (243/308/270) and reasonable condition .22. Have you considered that?

I have, But I've been told 1/2 of your money should go towards the rifle, the other half should go towards the scope. I mean if i could find a couple for that price i'd go for it though. They say guns are like tattoos, once you get one, you'll get another. What are your opinions on getting a mosin nagant and a cheap .22? the 7.62x54R is a great hunting round and plenty cheap and the mosins run for about 300-400 dollars unissued and are easily sporterized.

This is damned good value for a basically new rifle with a reasonably reasonable scope.

Savage Trophy Hunter .270 win | Trade Me

I'm sure if you wanted to go second hand a few of the guys on here would be happy to check it out for you. Rifles are a bit like cars. The first 5m driven, from the car yard the the road, costs about 25% of the purchase value. I did buy a new centrefire but have bought a few second hand that have been excellent bargains.