Thread: Sub MOA rifles

A bush type rifle only needs. MOD ( minute of deer, about 2 MOA) but with a ‘trebly’ I expect better.

I’ve never shot a deer/chamois etc further than 180 yards with my Finnwolf, but possibly because most of its life it wore a two and three quarter power scope.

Sub moa is overrated......my brand new marlin xt 22 shoots a solid 6 plus moa all day long, can't beat those fist size groups at 50 yards .

My 700dollar Howa mini shot sub moa with every group today comprised of 2 different powders and 7 different charge weights.
Gotta be happy with that.
The only rifle I have that wont shoot moa (or much much better) is my old 303.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

My 700dollar Howa mini shot sub moa with every group today comprised of 2 different powders and 7 different charge weights.
Gotta be happy with that.
The only rifle I have that wont shoot moa (or much much better) is my old 303.

if you place targets on top of each other...or transpher holes onto single target...what sort of group are you taking then???? just for interests sake.

Do a search, most comparisons between finnlights and t3's come to the same answers, they shoot the same groups but the only difference is that they cost 3 times more 😁

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

if you place targets on top of each other...or transpher holes onto single target...what sort of group are you taking then???? just for interests sake.

This is the 2206h target layed over the 2208 target which is a full grain higher charge. Dots are 24mm .
If I could overlay the 3 2206h charges id say it would still be happily under moa.

great stuff...two of my rifles will do that.... it sure makes it easy to swap loads/dual load when rifles behave themselves. looks like you have a great shooting bangstick.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

great stuff...two of my rifles will do that.... it sure makes it easy to swap loads/dual load when rifles behave themselves. looks like you have a great shooting bangstick.

Yes thats first shots with that projectile, 3 other loads all shoot same poi at 100 despite being quite different.
Oddly this one is low and right but Id say i will settle on a load for this projectile and re zero to suit it.

now Im not being a smart arse here.....something that was pointed out to me a long time ago and has helped me no end..... you have shot groups of about an inch....and funnily enough your AIMING POINT is about an inch..... if you make it smaller your groups may shrink too...a good way to make it smaller is white spot inside dark outer...so you can quarter the white spot with Xhairs..... try it some time,nothing to loose.
normally I just draw a cross about 1/4" thick.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

now Im not being a smart arse here.....something that was pointed out to me a long time ago and has helped me no end..... you have shot groups of about an inch....and funnily enough your AIMING POINT is about an inch..... if you make it smaller your groups may shrink too...a good way to make it smaller is white spot inside dark outer...so you can quarter the white spot with Xhairs..... try it some time,nothing to loose.
normally I just draw a cross about 1/4" thick.

If I had more magnification I would but I find that the smallest I can see clearly and quarter with that scope.
Largest 2206h group is .52 inches center to center or 0.4966 MOA ��

good stuff bud....thats a tidy group by any standards.... I have fixed 4x on my main hunting rifle now so yes appreciate what you saying.