Thread: Swarovski EL Range 10x42 LRF +Tracking Assistant Binocular

How do you find using Bino + range finder separately ? I guess for me in makes sense to have both consolidated into one. I have a Vortex range finder but the glass is no good . After spotting with bino it’s hard to relocate the target again especially in low light setting. I’m guessing the Sig1k will be better in that aspect.

Not sure how good the Swaro app is in terms of ranging on your phone.

Tbh I’d rather get a traditional bino without the electronic gimmicks. These features generally don’t last well over time

I run the sig all in one but I also have a 1kbdx that i carry around the farm on my knife belt for a just incase i use to run bino and range finder its not to bad but i do prefer all in one you genuinely cant beat the sigs for what they do they use applied ballistics i found on the swaros their wasnt enough data entry for my custom load to be reliable the sigs offer a validation feature which iv never had to use

Originally Posted by Kelton

I run the sig all in one but I also have a 1kbdx that i carry around the farm on my knife belt for a just incase i use to run bino and range finder its not to bad but i do prefer all in one you genuinely cant beat the sigs for what they do they use applied ballistics i found on the swaros their wasnt enough data entry for my custom load to be reliable the sigs offer a validation feature which iv never had to use

I see, that’s really good advice thanks for that will try and handle them to decide

I cant comment on the sig . Wouldn't even know what they look like . But I love my EL range swaros . Had Leica for years and years before. These things are next level for colour definition and the low light performance is phenomenal. I personally think the TA is gimmicky but that's me .
Get whatever floats your boat.

@Kelton is this them ?

https://cameralandny.com/shop/sig-sa...iation=3270325

Yup thats the buggers

Originally Posted by Kelton

Yup thats the buggers

Wouldn’t mind a look through a pair ….

Originally Posted by Nathan F

Wouldn’t mind a look through a pair ….

Their brilliant for me its the applied ballistics and range finder so so fast and accurate

I don’t use the ballistic function in my Swaro’s. Like Kelton said, it’s not an accurate enough ballistic profile for consistently accurate results. Cant say I have used the TA either although it does look bloody handy!

Maybe for a different perspective. I have had Swarovski binos since 1993. Only replaced them with 10 x 40 EL’s in 2015. My son now uses my old 8x30 SLC’s.
I also have a Leica range finder. The issue I have with combo glasses and range finders is the technology leaps and bounds happening. Just look at the Leica range finder models over the last 6 or 7 years. 1200, 1600, 2000, 2800 etc.
So my point is this. When you invest 3 to 4 k on glasses you are likely to have them for 20 years. What will the range finder technology be like then? I would rather simple update my range finder in the future not a combo. Just my 2 cents worth.
I am a Swaro fan. I also own 10x30 ELs and a BTX spotting scope.

Originally Posted by Southcity

Maybe for a different perspective. I have had Swarovski binos since 1993. Only replaced them with 10 x 40 EL’s in 2015. My son now uses my old 8x30 SLC’s.
I also have a Leica range finder. The issue I have with combo glasses and range finders is the technology leaps and bounds happening. Just look at the Leica range finder models over the last 6 or 7 years. 1200, 1600, 2000, 2800 etc.
So my point is this. When you invest 3 to 4 k on glasses you are likely to have them for 20 years. What will the range finder technology be like then? I would rather simple update my range finder in the future not a combo. Just my 2 cents worth.
I am a Swaro fan. I also own 10x30 ELs and a BTX spotting scope.

A very valid point on the technology. When I upgraded my leicas a year ago I replaced them with Kahles. Much cheaper great glass and functional etc. They lasted 3 weeks. Brought the swaros and sold the kahles. Why? I want the best glass possible. That’s number one for me as a hunter. If you can’t spot them you can’t shoot them. The rangefinder part is secondary. In 2005 when I started into LR shooting I had a handheld Leica rangefinder and some kahles binos. I definitely prefer the rangefinder in the binos rather than mucking around with more gear. As I’ve gotten older I like to just keep it simple. All I want to know is yards so for me the el range non ta was the logical move.
I can’t see much changing in my style of hunting in the next 20 years except for possibly getting lazier

The reality is that the combo of a kestrel 5700 which pair to a range finder it's pretty much done technology wise for a while.
The base map system is the only really new technology coming out withswaro and sig doing it now.


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Originally Posted by Southcity

Maybe for a different perspective. I have had Swarovski binos since 1993. Only replaced them with 10 x 40 EL’s in 2015. My son now uses my old 8x30 SLC’s.
I also have a Leica range finder. The issue I have with combo glasses and range finders is the technology leaps and bounds happening. Just look at the Leica range finder models over the last 6 or 7 years. 1200, 1600, 2000, 2800 etc.
So my point is this. When you invest 3 to 4 k on glasses you are likely to have them for 20 years. What will the range finder technology be like then? I would rather simple update my range finder in the future not a combo. Just my 2 cents worth.
I am a Swaro fan. I also own 10x30 ELs and a BTX spotting scope.

The technology is definitely moving quick but at the end of the day I just need to know how far away something is to +-5m and the solution. I thought about getting the SIG 6ks for the built in atmospheric data like @Kelton has but need a kestral for wind readings most days in NZ anyhow so stuck with the 3000s.

I pulled the trigger on some Swaro 10x 42 EL Range TA's a couple of years ago and I couldn't be happier. The quality of the glass on these is absolutely stunning and even after using them for a couple of years I still often find myself thinking about just how incredibly crisp and clear everything looks when viewing through the swaros.

My confidence and accuracy with longer range shooting is infinitely better with these binos. I fed my load (.270 145grain Hornady Precision Hunter) into the ballistic calculator function on the binos and when I range the target it provides me with the range (angle adjusted) AND an MOA adjustment. All I need to do then is adjust the MOA turret on my Swaroski Z5 scope and pull the trigger (Note the photo shows my old Leupold VX# Boone and Crocket rather than the Z5 - that was also a worthwhile upgrade). The only real guess work now becomes the wind adjustment. I've contemplated purchasing a kestrel wind reader but I just don't do enough long range shooting in wind to justify it.

I pulled off a great shot on a nanny Tahr at 770 meters with this system on a windless morning in the southern alps last year - it was pretty magic using the binos to find the animal, range the animal, produce a firing solution for the shot and then provide tracking assistance to help you find your kill.

I initially thought this was a gimmick but once you get the hang of it , it works perfectly. Don't worry about the other posts that suggest that it only works with cell coverage - that's not accurate. If you have cell coverage the Swaro app will give show you a satellite map of the area but you absolutely don't need this and I never bother toggling this on even if I am in coverage - all you need is the arrow to dhow you the direction and distance to your kill and you get this regardless of whether you have mobile coverage or not.

The only downside that I see to this unit is that it is quite heavy - as are most LFR Bino's. I also have some Swaro CL Pocket 8x25's and they are outstanding optically also but of course no LRF capability and you wouldn't want to glass for long periods with them given the limited eye relief and FOV etc.

Before I committed the $5k to these I tested the Leica's and Delta's - both nice units but Swaro was an easy decision for me. All the best for your purchase decision. Buy once, cry once I reckon - you will never regret buying Swaro.

I recently brought a pair of lecia guide pro binos the new generation ballistic calculators built in are awesome saves having to get apps out for dope at longer ranges.
Very fast and ranges further than anyone shoots, see it being pretty future proof.

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