Thread: Thermal monocular - thinking about buying one

Originally Posted by Mintie

Have a good look at the Pard TA62‐35. Very well spec for the money with a higher than usual sensor resolution for its price bracket. Also uses 18650 batteries so super simple to swap out on the run. Have been very happy with mine.

Thanks Mintie, I checked out your review & it helped steer me to Pard.

Thanks Trout, I had a look at Peters having recently brought one of his tents but he is out of most stock

Originally Posted by Fat ninja

Have a look at the pards, delta mike may have them

Thanks Fat Ninja, deal done on a pard at delta mikes

Originally Posted by Shorty

Thanks Fat Ninja, deal done on a pard at delta mikes

Good to see you supported local business,enjoy you new toy.

Don't want to be a party pooper and it may well be a little late but make sure you check the rules about use on DOC land, unless things have changed thermal is not allowed. No matter your personal opinion on the merits of said rules it pays not to break them as illegal activity while hunting is not likely to be conductive to maintaining a firearms license.

As far as non DOC land enjoy your new toy, it's definitely eye opening as to just how many animals are about when you start looking round with the thermals.

No party pooping here , your allowed thermals on public land. I have been told personally by doc Hawkes Bay that it's allowed, so long as you can't shoot through then.

Originally Posted by Larskramer

No party pooping here , your allowed thermals on public land. I have been told personally by doc Hawkes Bay that it's allowed, so long as you can't shoot through then.

I would go back to this office and get them to put that in writing.
Hunting permit conditions states
"The following activities are strictly prohibited:
Hunting during the hours of darkness (half an hour after sunset to half hour before sunrise).
Hunting with spotlights, torches, vehicle headlights, or any other artificial light source.
Hunting with any night vision equipment, thermal imaging, infrared or heat detecting devices.
Attaching a torch or other light source to a firearm.
Hunting with any shotgun, rimfire rifle, 17 or 22 hornet calibre, air rifle, or tracer and incendiary type ammunition...."

https://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-re...it-conditions/

What is the tech definition of "sunset" or "sunrise" as DoC uses them?

It's not hunting if your just looking.... I hunt with a rifle and look with binoculars

It's actually very poorly laid out, as the section relating to this specifically mentions torches etc, are you deemed to be hunting if using a headlamp to recover an animal shot right on dusk?

Until you have verified the animal has expired you are technically still hunting it once dark via head lamp.

Originally Posted by 223nut

It's not hunting if your just looking.... I hunt with a rifle and look with binoculars

correct, if you cant shoot through, it it isnt hunting.

Originally Posted by Preacher

It's actually very poorly laid out, as the section relating to this specifically mentions torches etc, are you deemed to be hunting if using a headlamp to recover an animal shot right on dusk?

Until you have verified the animal has expired you are technically still hunting it once dark via head lamp.

I have seen wording somewhere that states that a firearm may not be discharged during the hours of darkness

My point is if I shoot something just before sunset and 3/4 hour later when using a headlamp to recover it, the animal jumps up wounded I am technically not legally allowed to shoot it to finish the job, with the wording as it is.

Although I really can't see how using a hand held thermal as a spotting device during the hours of daylight (which would be BETWEEN half hour BEFORE sunrise and half hour AFTER sunset as stated by the DOC website) is any different to using a spotting scope or binoculars. It really doesn't make sense to me.

Originally Posted by Preacher

My point is if I shoot something just before sunset and 3/4 hour later when using a headlamp to recover it, the animal jumps up wounded I am technically not legally allowed to shoot it to finish the job, with the wording as it is.

Although I really can't see how using a hand held thermal as a spotting device during the hours of daylight (which would be BETWEEN half hour BEFORE sunrise and half hour AFTER sunset as stated by the DOC website) is any different to using a spotting scope or binoculars. It really doesn't make sense to me.

Take a knife lol... I have a good video somewhere om a mate going to collect a deer after dark and it was still alive, his first time also. Told him to man up and jump on the stag , not knowing how big it was... he was scared, told us it was huge but was his first up close encounter... we were watching hing from about 200m away with the thermal binos and videoed him jumping on the back of the stag and getting booted in the face haha. Woops.. it was also a monster.. 120kg+ red hahah

Although technically you would still be "hunting" whilst using the knife half an hour after sunset if the purpose is to secure a game animal.