Thread: Walnut and blued steel,

Originally Posted by akaroa1

500 3" BPE vs 500 3"
And the winner is ?

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Should have read

" 500 3" BPE vs 45-70

@akaroa1 …Gulp . That looks intimidating just with the round sitting there ready to slide in hahaha , I feel for your shoulder , the rifle looks in mint condition

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My first blued and walnut rifle in .30-06. 1970s vintage in perfect condition and only 40 rounds fired. Looking forward to taking delivery now. Have 168 ELD-Ms and Lapua brass waiting.

Originally Posted by Hurricane

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My first blued and walnut rifle in .30-06. 1970s vintage in perfect condition and only 40 rounds fired. Looking forward to taking delivery now. Have 168 ELD-Ms and Lapua brass waiting.

Bloody nice, great caliber.

Just picked this thing of beauty up for a song off TM.

Trying to find some more info on it but it’s a 1960’s vintage Musgrave built on a K98 action in .30-06

Mint bore and very tidy all round.

Being South African I have always wanted a Musgrave and couldn’t pass this one up when it came up for grabs!









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Very unusual stock, interesting to see it

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Very unusual stock, interesting to see it

Yeah, never seen another one like it with the flats over the action, only seen that on vintage Orbendorff Mausers before.

So far I have worked out that the action was built by JP Sauer and Sohn in the 30’s.

Trying a few other avenues to find out some more details!


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Originally Posted by akaroa1

500 3" BPE vs 500 3"
And the winner is ?

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@akaroa1 is that a paper patching or Teflon tape on the 500?

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

@akaroa1 is that a paper patching or Teflon tape on the 500?

@Marty Henry its good old fashioned paper patched

My 500 2 5/8" BPE loves the paper patched 395 grainers and I'm hoping the 1885 500 3" BPE will alos
Have fired it a few times but have one small repair to complete before I go to the full noise charge of 125 grains FFG

right,so to avoid 20 lashings at dawn......... that is twice now you have mentioned this "other " 50 calibre ..this mystical 500 2 5/8" still hasnt shown it self I dont believe,and the line up of cartridges for comparison isnt really fair without one of her fodder in the middle....hop to it pronto like....PLEASE.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

right,so to avoid 20 lashings at dawn......... that is twice now you have mentioned this "other " 50 calibre ..this mystical 500 2 5/8" still hasnt shown it self I dont believe,and the line up of cartridges for comparison isnt really fair without one of her fodder in the middle....hop to it pronto like....PLEASE.

@Micky Duck Hollis Martini 500 2 5/8" BPE pistol grip sporting, express sights and ovate barrel with matt top flat rib

Just your run of the mill 500 BPE
It shoots to sights at 65m and holds to a dinner plate group off hand
It's down loaded a bit but is nice to shoot

Whereas the 1885 500 BPE I'm intending going full noise as they are a very strong and reliable action

File image of the two 500s

And a funny one
Trying to put the 3" BPE into the 2 5/8" Hollis Martini
It just wouldn't go around the corner in the loading trough

Originally Posted by akaroa1

@Marty Henry its good old fashioned paper patched

My 500 2 5/8" BPE loves the paper patched 395 grainers and I'm hoping the 1885 500 3" BPE will alos
Have fired it a few times but have one small repair to complete before I go to the full noise charge of 125 grains FFG

125 grains should be fun. I've never been tempted to powder coat like the 45/70 there but do pp for the martinis. Now I'm wondering how Teflon tape would perform as an alternative.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

125 grains should be fun. I've never been tempted to powder coat like the 45/70 there but do pp for the martinis. Now I'm wondering how Teflon tape would perform as an alternative.

@Marty Henry the 45-70 405 grain powder coated bullets are off the shelf Black Widow bullets. Cheap and easy, ready to go

Yes I will be doing some proper paper patch experiments with the 500 3". It's from the paper patch era but has conventional rifling so a bit of work to do there

when you think about it the not being able to fit is a good thing..... thankyou for posting photos,I shall put the "cat o nine tails" back in the rack.