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    WARNING ! Buying with a forged license

    The person pictured on the altered/forged Firearms Licence recently purchased a pistol, magazines and several hundred rounds of .38 calibre ammunition from a licensed Whanganui collector. He purchased the pistol using cash ($850) and showed a licence with his photo inserted in the name of Trevor Williams JOHNS to the seller who took this photocopy.

    The same person has also purchased a pistol in a similar transaction in Tauranga using a licence (same person pictured) in the name of James Michael YATES.

    If anyone knows the name of the person in the photograph please contact D/Sgt Glenn TOY 021 1915451.

    Please advise your dealers and collectors to be on alert for fraudulent cards. The frauds are easy to spot if you look for a true hologram, and on the later cards, the clear core clear areas.
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    And no this isn't an April Fool's joke, message from Pistol NZ & NZ Police.

    'B', Gun Club ????

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    He looks like angry kind of fella eh
    Ya can't park there mate.

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    This is the last thing we need right now...

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    Any story that ends with "And no this isn't an April Fool's joke" has zero credibility.

    Besides you need one or two more bits of documentation to purchase a Pistol than just a Dodgy Firearms Licence.

    Although this story is also on the PNZ website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P38 View Post


    Any story that ends with "And no this isn't an April Fool's joke" has zero credibility.

    Besides you need one or two more bits of documentation to purchase a Pistol than just a Dodgy Firearms Licence.

    Nice try though

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    Yeah but wait untill the media pick up on it. You don't need much imagination to guess what that HDPA maggot would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P38 View Post


    Any story that ends with "And no this isn't an April Fool's joke" has zero credibility.

    Besides you need one or two more bits of documentation to purchase a Pistol than just a Dodgy Firearms Licence.

    Although this story is also on the PNZ website.

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    As pointed out by PNZ, we are required to use a P2P. I just omitted the original line in the message "The paperwork used is an application form for a permit to procure! Do not transfer any firearms for which you have not seen a legitimate permit to procure."

    Message dated by PNZ of March 31st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott View Post
    As pointed out by PNZ, we are required to use a P2P. I just omitted the original line in the message "The paperwork used is an application form for a permit to procure! Do not transfer any firearms for which you have not seen a legitimate permit to procure."

    Message dated by PNZ of March 31st.
    Agreed maybe it's not a hoax as the story is also on the PNZ website.

    Surely the sellers (Bonafide Collectors) can tell the difference between a "Blue Application Form" and a "Pink Permit To Procure" form as they would have had to complete this same process and forms themselves as part of their Collecting Activities.

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    Blows my mind that someone who has used the forms before doesn't know how they work?
    I've used them twice and I know exactly what is required?

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    Sorry, I don't believe anything in this story.
    Not today.

    I think its an Aprils fools prank that has spread via social media and the more it spreads, the more the story gets embellished.
    Once I see a genuine Police media release, then I might take it seriously.
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    I was emailed just now by our club president with a PNZ attachment.
    If it is a prank it has gone viral😆

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    It's not an April fools joke, it's genuine, I saw it on the police intranet.
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    If it an April fools joke, they had better be careful about getting done for forging a license.... Oh wait, thats legal now. Its called the HDPA law.......

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    How the hell could any collector / endorsement holder be fooled by that licence unless you are blind? What of the P2P process? What the hell???????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krameranzac View Post
    How the hell could any collector / endorsement holder be fooled by that licence unless you are blind? What of the P2P process? What the hell???????
    My thoughts as well. Pink slip from club and POL67A with it being signed in front of police is required to purchase a pistol.

    A legit licence says B (Pistol Club) on it as well.
    Most dealers licence number start with T as well?

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    If it an April fools joke, they had better be careful about getting done for forging a license.... Oh wait, thats legal now. Its called the HDPA law.......
    as long as the forging is well done its perfectly ok to do this you cant prosecute the poor man pictured as it my harm his career and its not his fault anyway he had a bad upbringing the way our laws work even if he did get caught heed have to do community service working in a gun shop and reside at some well known forgers house oh and surrender his gun license also we could be the ones that end up wearing it because we didnt do anything wrong
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