Thread: We have too many guns on our streets

OK woody that ruffled a few feathers
I also can't agree with that first statement you made however after reading further on perhaps it was a bad choice of words and it has been interpreted wrong well I hope so how I and probably a few took your comment was as long as I've got what I want I don't care if others have to lose what they have and fuk them people like us should be standing together on this if someone else likes semis or pumps or blackpowder even and are responsible about it then I and a lot of others do actually care if that gets taken away from them

Originally Posted by Maca49

This guy can clean my ears and rearrange my brain and thought patterns in a few hours

Maca I am worried that if Woody cleans your ears your brain might roll out through the now widened gap. Also rearranging any man's brain and thought patterns should not take a few hours as there is only food, shelter, work, play and sex and there various sub sets to be organised. In point of fact, sex could well be a sub set of play so it may be even easier still.

Under NO circumstances should one attempt any sort of DIY brain reorganisation-FFSthe owner of the reorged brain could yeild to temptation and become a politician!!!
no you fools ,i did not say prostitute ,i said politician. what is
even more deadly is that politician may begin to speak commonsense and risk being tossed out of the house!!!!

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"Mr speaker ,Mr speaker,I fear for my colleague on the opposition benches.i have reason to believe that this person may have suffered trauma at birth ,in that the attending docs discarded the intelligent bit and mother has raised the afterbirth.my condolences!"

Well I've done a bit to get some of these guns off our streets. I have found a nice warm place in my safe for a few. They of course get molested and fondled on a regular basis, but I can live with the stigma.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

They of course get molested and fondled on a regular basis, but I can live with the stigma.

Is your name on the national Gunophile register and do your neighbours know?

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No records on thousands of guns being stolen each year | Stuff.co.nz

Owner of Timaru's Gun City Wayne Golightly . . . is calling for a gun register to be put in place. A web-based gun register kept by the gun-shop owners that would flag unusual purchases should be pursued by police, he said.

Originally Posted by Kscott

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No records on thousands of guns being stolen each year | Stuff.co.nz

And a Claymore!? look at the photo. The H and K looks like a c-cat.

When will we see a well written myth busting response from COLFO, SSANZ, NZDA etc?

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

And a Claymore!? look at the photo. The H and K looks like a c-cat.

I could quite happily babysit that

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

And a Claymore!? look at the photo. The H and K looks like a c-cat.

I'll Take in the M14. I'll take good care of it

Well you think that the police could in fact ask exaclty which baby killing semi auto muskets were stolen when doing the theft report and perhaps they could even write said answer down on some paper or like in an email or whatever and file it in a rolodex or floppy disk or other such high tech system.

But maybe we should have a machine guns dewey decimal register and then we will know exactly where the weapons aren't after they get stolen, and hence would have 1 place not to look for them, which would really narrow it down.

Yeh. many of the ones that posted misunderstood my meaning and intent. Never mind, there is no long term harm done. On the subject of pumps; the first gun I provided my grandson was a 20ga Remington pump;- for several reasons, not the least of which was the great safety features of this weapon. He could have 1 or later, 2 in the magazine with an empty chamber while carrying. I never had to worry about a gun not broken, nor a semi with one instantly in the chamber. The gun could be loaded and unloaded with safety on, and was never cocked without my permission-- the cocking action itself being a noisy affair giving plenty of audible warning and a certain amount of time for me to react if improper.

We still own that firearm and soon it may sprout a rifled barrel for deer slugs.

The interesting thread which underlies several of the more negative remarks that were posted struck me as near paranoia type concern and perceptions by firearm owners that ANY concession we might give , relating to firearms ownership and use, would almost certainly be capitalized upon by negative anti gun media and associated belligerent interests, and that this would be used by government and or police to lever our established rights away from us. In my view this is a legitimate concern held by lawful firearms owners, but nevertheless a sad indictment of the lack of trust in our government and the way it makes laws, and the meaninglessness, or lack of meaningfulness of the consultative processes that exist in our country. It is a fact that in many other spheres of citizens engagements with local and regional councils people feel that their concerns, submissions etc are ignored, downplayed or made to be of less than significant importance by those elected to govern locally or nationally. The excuses that are engineered by governing bodies to with-hold information from the public are many and varied and it is becoming increasingly difficult for citizens to have any satisfactory redress for their concerns.

This is the real nub of the fears that beset firearms owners, along with those, who, for example fear pollution of their water supplies by mass aerial poison applications, and pollution by carcasses, by-kill etc, truck drivers who need to complete 'x' km per day to keep delivery schedules being held up by lycra clad pedal pushers but who are to afraid to breach the "PC" gap by going public with their concerns and other drivers who live in fear of hitting a wavering cyclist. I'm sure you can think of many examples of "fears of breaching PC" and the fears of standing up and being counted and seen by all and sundry, and risking public criticism or lampooning. How many governing Ministries do you trust implicitly? DoC? MPI ?, Ministry of Health?, Ministry of Education? Police? Ministry for the Environment (who controls ALL resource consent procedures)?

If you have doubts about trust , then ask yourself this:-- what meaningful ongoing actions are you personally taking to correct things you are concerned about, and also speaking out.

Is it PC to ask how many of the relations and so-called concerned relatives of the prick who was involved in drugs and who shot 4 policemen knew of his activities and did anything or sfa to stop him before it came to the shootings? I saw a Maori university professor on TV 1 the other day saying to the public in his interview that if a non Maori policeman came to his door he would slam the door in his face until a Maori policemen came instead. This joker claimed to have been a policeman in OZ before he came to NZ to become one of our educational elite. WTF?
And while this educationalist blabs his crap, legitimate firearms owners are getting crap because a criminal illegally uses a firearm.
Question is --- what positive things can we collectively do about ignorance in and by governance powers-- across the board?

Originally Posted by Rushy

Is your name on the national Gunophile register and do your neighbours know?

Yes (I have my licence) and No.

Originally Posted by Steve123

I'll Take in the M14. I'll take good care of it

Maybe you would like it, or it could be airsoft.

Rule 1 - don't believe these BS artists.

Originally Posted by Tussock

Not trusting your government is fundamental to democracy. Governments are not meant to be trusted.

Historically trusting a government causes them to become untrustworthy. Its like storing your wallet on the footpath outside your house, then acting surprised when it gets carried off.

The thing is--how do we sort them out?