Thread: What scope to buy? Can’t decide

how far you shooting? is weight important? the leica will be big and heavy.
currently running a vx5 3 to 15 and a vx3 3.5 to 10. have shot gongs out to 610 yards easy peasy with the vx3 and my short barrel 7mm08. was worried ten power might be a hindrance but nope. all good. plus it's halfish the size of the vx5.
the only difference between the vx5 and the vx6 is the the turrets to my knowledge the glass is the same.
the vx5 lives on the wsm and I'm happy with that.
the vx3 suits the little kimber classic. tried a z5 but it was looong in relation to the action and I didn't feel the love.
plus ki love the alumina scope caps to cover the glass when fighting through wet nasty scratchy stuff.

Originally Posted by Blackfern

how far you shooting? is weight important? the leica will be big and heavy.
currently running a vx5 3 to 15 and a vx3 3.5 to 10. have shot gongs out to 610 yards easy peasy with the vx3 and my short barrel 7mm08. was worried ten power might be a hindrance but nope. all good. plus it's halfish the size of the vx5.
the only difference between the vx5 and the vx6 is the the turrets to my knowledge the glass is the same.
the vx5 lives on the wsm and I'm happy with that.
the vx3 suits the little kimber classic. tried a z5 but it was looong in relation to the action and I didn't feel the love.
plus ki love the alumina scope caps to cover the glass when fighting through wet nasty scratchy stuff.

Vx6 is way ahead of the vx5 in glass quality just like z5 vs z6 in the Swarovski the more you spend the better you get.

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Normal shots would be anywhere from 100-350. I’ve got a VX3L but it’s quite old (2009) and having an AO/side focus would be good to make things more sharper and crisp.

VX5 will be fine for those shots, don't think you need the extra zoom of a 3-18 vx6 unless you prefer a thinner cross hair which I do prefer on a VX6.

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Never owned a Leica so I can't comment.

However I've owned plenty of leupolds. I've got a vx5 2-10 on my 308 and got a vx6 3-18 on my 284.

I've not once felt undergunned with the 2-10 on the 308 even on the tops. This is from a good few years of shooting from bush to clearings and the like. 2-10 in my opinion with a vx5 is a optimal magnification range for the humble 308 and you'll save on weight by doing so. Hope this information helps you make a informed decision! Always exciting buying new things!

This is consistent with my experience with Leupolds. Have had many and every one let me down. Leupolds reliability is defined by the exception not the norm.

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Originally Posted by Tahr

This is consistent with my experience with Leupolds. Have had many and every one let me down. Leupolds reliability is defined by the exception not the norm.

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I wouldnt put much weight on this report.
The tester hasn't even said what range he was shooting at and there are no scale markings on the paper.
The return to zero test as described is chaotic and we should be able to see all the shots in one view, Clearly marked but we don’t.
We would need to see comparison using the same rifle and shooter with a known good scope. If the results are good say < 1 moa groups and return to zero from 20 MOA in each direction - then good ! But if it doesnt then its equally likely the rifle, shooter, rest system, ammo, perhaps even wind are contributing significant variation.

Originally Posted by Bagheera

I wouldnt put much weight on this report.
The tester hasn't even said what range he was shooting at and there are no scale markings on the paper.
The return to zero test as described is chaotic and we should be able to see all the shots in one view, Clearly marked but we don’t.
We would need to see comparison using the same rifle and shooter with a known good scope. If the results are good say < 1 moa groups and return to zero from 20 MOA in each direction - then good ! But if it doesnt then its equally likely the rifle, shooter, rest system, ammo, perhaps even wind are contributing significant variation.

There are many makes and models that have been tested in the same series for comparison. Leupolds have consistently been poor under the same test.
Some brands have been consistently good. E.g. n

Leica allllll day , vx5/6 are over priced junk

I would go the leica amplus 6 3-18x44i
It has very good reviews, a fine aiming point for long range, better glass and i would expect it to be far more reliable than a leupold.

So theres another page with the verification data covering shooter, rifle, mounting, ammo grouping and stability over time ?

And standardisation of shooting position and rests used between zero stability tests on different days ?

Originally Posted by Bagheera

So theres another page with the verification data covering shooter, rifle, mounting, ammo grouping and stability over time ?

And standardisation of shooting position and rests used between zero stability tests on different days ?

You know there isn’t. There’s consistent methodology and clear trends though. Some very popular brands perform poorly. Not definitively but indicatively.
No doubt unpalatable for the gold ring brigade but a quite predictable result.

Originally Posted by Bagheera

So theres another page with the verification data covering shooter, rifle, mounting, ammo grouping and stability over time ?

And standardisation of shooting position and rests used between zero stability tests on different days ?

If you read the page(s) outlining how the tests are conducted I'd say this is the most formidably scientific test one could conduct on scope robustness. Anyone who uses a 30 shot group to test the rifles baseline accuracy is both an educated and scientific person.

Well my vx3i 3.5-10 works as it should on my kimber 308, after many years of bush bashing. The only failure I got was from talley scope mounts in aluminium that splitted in half. I replaced the whole mounting system with leupold steel bases and rings and never looked back.
My vx3 4.5x14 has been to fiordland during ten days of hard going, where the rifle was used as a walking stick so much that there was no butt pad left on the carbon stock .on the last day, I got challenged by my mates to shoot a spot of about 5” diameter on a big rock at 635m. And got it on the first cold bore shot.
And that rifle has been on previous trips in kaimanawa and South Island for thar shooting without missing a beat. ( rem7 in 7saum).

Maybe I got lucky and got the best leupold scopes of the batch. But actually , I don’t think so, there are so many leupolds sold worldwide and set up on rifles that work so flawlessly .
On the other hand, I have two mates of mine in Europe who are professional hunting guides, one got a flash Leica that lasted only one year before completing craping out ( rubber illumination button cracking, scope not holding zero) and the other one had a top of the line zeiss, and the side focus/ illumination cap completely fell out in the middle of a driven hunt.