Thread: Who Is Using 350 Legend ?

Originally Posted by Scout

Nothing kills game better than a bigger slug, best way to add killing power to subsonic is to go up, the only louder part is the smack as it drops the animals !

I have had them all & shoot hundreds of animals, right now I have 300BLK in a Sako 75 & must say it is fantastic super sonic round & near any load goes in the same hole but no where near the killing effect in sub sonic of my 45/70 & 45Colt loads of 30yrs ago .

The 350 Legend is very near a blown out straight 223Rem & it is no problem to fit .35 cal in a 223 case !

damn that would be a sweet little rig

I dont find the 44mag kills any better than the 300blk which is on the spot and a few kicks from a CNS shot,
anychance of a pic of your rifle?



heres mine, love my kimber but I do wish it was the small action sako as they feed as smooth as silk

Originally Posted by berg243

deciding between a x39and a 357mag as a short range subs rifle at the moment . just trying to compare all options against a 45/70 which has problem of over penetration when you cant see far enough in the dark. my other thought is to run pistol bullets in the 45/70 if the smaller diameter projectiles would be accurate.

45 ACP is.452 whereas 45/70 is .458 so there's going to be very little engagement between bullet and rifling.

Standard twist on x39 is 1:8.45 or something so it's actually pretty good for subs.

350 legend Is a straight wall case that indexes on the case mouth, the rim is rebated ie smaller than the case body and its not the same size as the 223/300 blk out. Magazines are also specific as the feed guides are in different places, all in all its a strange beast designed initally to work in a modified ar platform to get round case size, shape and calibre hunting restrictions in some states

@Marty Henry I believe that is true (not sure on how much rebated) but no trouble headspacing/indexing on the mouth, plenty of dangerous animal guns (Soldiers) work on this principle & I have never had one fail, even when I messed around loading 180-200gr bullets in my 30 Carbine, thousands of 9mm, hundreds of .380 & .45 ACP had more trouble with necks & shoulders on normal rounds .

A lot of stuff on the nett/forums is Parroted Bullshit & not from people who have done it !

I think the .44Mag with subs would still beat the 300BLK by fair margin but I have not used it myself, I have shot hundreds of deer with the 223Rem from the ground & air, we also loss some of these as do others because I have shot many carrying old .223 slugs, also lots of deer, pigs, warthogs & antelope with .22LR & as you say if all shot in just the right place all die the same.

On that my friend shot a Eland Bull 4 times between the eyes to no effect with a .22LR (other than blowing my proxide to hell with the slugs in the bone) so there is a point where it just will not work .

Now the 45/70 I have shot from Cats, Rabbits to Buffalo, Bantang, full & Subs !

Did get smashed by Bantang Bull when being over confident with the subsonic 500gr lol !

Now I have the 510WSM all bets are off !

Oh I neglected to say in the first post I have been out hunting with a few young kids & women & i think a cartridge like this has a bit more of a edge than the 223Rem & 300BLK for the beginner/learner, my mates daughter has her own (well was) 6X45 in a L461 Sako & it has killed very well but I don't let her shoot difficult shots just on dark near the bush edge either !

you could say same about a properly loaded 7.62x39mm.....given decent projectiles and range kept under 150 yards it is a very capable wee round,very suitable for smaller statured shooters or those recoil sensitive.

Originally Posted by berg243

deciding between a x39and a 357mag as a short range subs rifle at the moment . just trying to compare all options against a 45/70 which has problem of over penetration when you cant see far enough in the dark. my other thought is to run pistol bullets in the 45/70 if the smaller diameter projectiles would be accurate.

you could run casts with hollow base BACKWARDS...... overpenetration shouldnt be issue then...I had x39mm expanding to 13mm with cast at subsonic speeds.... gave whole idea away after a few piss poor placements by me left me cold on idea.
if your placement is spot on...calibre isnt going to matter much...when 150grn cast 30 cal will give pass throughs...anything else is wasted in ground beyond.

Yes exactly what I posted & made point of you can't always place that shot "spot on" or you were mistaken in that spot !

Yes I think the 7.62X39 could be good also & I bought 2000rds of PMC soft nose to use to, I don't think much difference over the 300BLK to be honest, it is but not much & then not .308 so a lot of the good .308 projectile not really suitable .

For subsonic death dealing bigger is better by a lot, I just didn't have anything get up from 400gr-500gr (other than that Bantang & a Buffalo or two, missed the spot) with a nice big flat meplat & shots under 110-125yds max max .

The subsonic is just a side thing of the cartridge I had in mind & for the 300BLK it is the main thing !

I ran 7.62 supersonic with 308 projectiles no worries...still sub 3" at hundy...being a 150 yard rifle..no need for better,so never tried and shot stuff all on paper.
subsonic just used 151grn hp cast from Robert...they ARE IT when it comes to slower loads unless you want to fork out for lehigh.....

Hi Micky Duck, I am considering buying a 7.62 ..what do you consider properly loaded and decent projectiles ?( I would be shooting off the shelf ammo)

Thanks in advance.

If you can find it barnaul or norinco blue and white box can't be beaten for price accuracy or terminal performance. They are all 120 to 128 grain ad that's where the m43 works best.

the hornady 50 pack had a SST type projectile in them as shot well and killed VERY well..... if your rifle liked them and you could find them ,they were pretty much the best factory load out there....in these trying times its more a matter of finding ammunition...rather than finding the best....hit animal in right place and it will fall over.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

the hornady 50 pack had a SST type projectile in them as shot well and killed VERY well..... if your rifle liked them and you could find them ,they were pretty much the best factory load out there....in these trying times its more a matter of finding ammunition...rather than finding the best....hit animal in right place and it will fall over.

The hornady training ammo it was called was really accurate and killed well in my mini 30, highland seemed to have a harder bullet and was better for the bigger stags.

Originally Posted by truman

Hi Micky Duck, I am considering buying a 7.62 ..what do you consider properly loaded and decent projectiles ?( I would be shooting off the shelf ammo)

Thanks in advance.

I can vouch for the Highland (now PPU) 123gr factory ammo. Have been using it for a decade. Back in the 'good old days' of semi's I was using it in my Mini-30's and my AR7.62x39 as my meat gatherer of choice. Now use it in a Ruger Ranch bolt gun. I have never lost an animal using this ammo. All but one down hill running hind have dropped on the spot with single shots in the boiler room. Never needed a follow up shot. Just enough energy and bullet performance to drop them on the spot with minimal meat damage maximising the meat yield.
Fortunately I bought quite a bit of it on special at Serious Shooters when they were running a bulk deal and had it priced cheaper than mil-surp FMJ.

https://www.reloaders.co.nz/shop/Man...+123gr+SP.html

Originally Posted by Scout

Any one using the 350 Legend, if so what in & on what, results so far ?

I was going to build a 358 on a blown out straight 223Rem on one of my Sako small actions for a nice light 7 shot do most things, easy carry rifle, like a truck gun, maybe fast twist to shoot 300gr subs, after reading how effective (near same as 35 Rem & bullets that work at that velocity) the 357 Maximum was in a rifle, just never got around to it & then chap did 357AR not long after that Winchester released the strange specification 350 Legend .

I know you are after a 350 Legend but Winchester dropped the ball with it unless you are an AR15 user, Have you thought about a .358 Winchester better selection of bullet weights,
I do cast .358's a 220 HP and a 240 FP True Fllite do .358" barrels there are more people building them, I have supplied two people with cast bullets in the last week
check it out on Amercian hunting sites everyone hunting with cast bullets either has a .358 or wants one. worth a look.