Thread: Why Does Everyone Hate Dan Cans?

The baffle with the thread on it came apart on a dpt on my 300 mag after a lot of use. It was fixed no trouble.
Everything wears out.

So in summary, NOT everyone on here hates Dan Cans. Some like them.
I have one of each. That said, I'd swap my Dan Can for a DPT tomorrow but its not that much of a big deal to really worry about. 1st world problems I suppose.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

So in summary, NOT everyone on here hates Dan Cans. Some like them.
I have one of each. That said, I'd swap my Dan Can for a DPT tomorrow but its not that much of a big deal to really worry about. 1st world problems I suppose.

To be simple and clear. I do not mind his suppressors. They are a fairly good design and seem to be well made (mostly) It is his service that has burnt him. If he was the only one he would get away with it and people would probably be happy. But there are companies out there that care about their customers that have products that can do exactly the same job just as well or better.

I find it easy to believe ALL alloy suppressors will fail through overheating or long sustained use. If you are going to go hard on your suppressor get a stainless model like a MAE or Waitaki. Or just expect it to fail and accept.

that's a bit harsh, "a fairly good design". given the levels of sound reduction they achieved in independent testing last year.
and the fact they don't have to be stripped and have the first baffle checked / replaced,
oh and the compact's have about the shortest front overhang available.
could just be that all they guys with DPT's are just pissed they did not get something else.(Pulling someone's leg here so don't hang me I speak in jest )

to be fair every design is a compromise and Dan's cans are expensive and the typical user (me) won't notice the difference a few Db makes.
but the goats I shot in the weekend ran towards me and I stopped shooting when they got to 4 mtrs away. Gen 6 compact on 358win with trailboss under some pistol bullets
Zq

Originally Posted by ZQLewis

that's a bit harsh, "a fairly good design". given the levels of sound reduction they achieved in independent testing last year.
and the fact they don't have to be stripped and have the first baffle checked / replaced,
oh and the compact's have about the shortest front overhang available.
could just be that all they guys with DPT's are just pissed they did not get something else.(Pulling someone's leg here so don't hang me I speak in jest )

to be fair every design is a compromise and Dan's cans are expensive and the typical user (me) won't notice the difference a few Db makes.
but the goats I shot in the weekend ran towards me and I stopped shooting when they got to 4 mtrs away. Gen 6 compact on 358win with trailboss under some pistol bullets
Zq

Having seen one sectioned against a few others as comparison, it is not the worst design, but not the best one either. Yes they work. No argument. Better than others is debatable. Animals have run towards me when using a Gunworks and my mate had similar experiences with an MAE. Most suppressors make it very difficult for animals to identify a location for the source of the sound. Most that I have seen will choose to run away from the bullet impact as, to them, that is where something happened when they heard the sound so the associate the two and run away from that.

As for the DB testing, and whether his are truly quieter than the others, I have not yet seen any truly independent testing that would confirm this. The most comprehensive test I saw was done by Hardy staff and to find out tha the testers suppressor came out the quietest seems a little convenient to me.

Cheers timattalon, As I have only seen the insides of the Hardy and DPT in pictures and not any others I can't argue with you.
And yes true have experienced animals running towards shooters with other brands as well. I was not suggesting that it was only a Hardy thing.

However I would like to question your last comment.
My understanding was that while they did use Hardy's sound equipment and testing facilities only Rod and Rifle staff where involved with the testing and recording of data.
I will defend my decisions as to what gear I use and as the OP noted I wanted to give some support to the Hardy Cans
Supressor Test - NZ Rod&Rifle

Zq

Originally Posted by ZQLewis

Cheers timattalon, As I have only seen the insides of the Hardy and DPT in pictures and not any others I can't argue with you.
And yes true have experienced animals running towards shooters with other brands as well. I was not suggesting that it was only a Hardy thing.

However I would like to question your last comment.
My understanding was that while they did use Hardy's sound equipment and testing facilities only Rod and Rifle staff where involved with the testing and recording of data.
I will defend my decisions as to what gear I use and as the OP noted I wanted to give some support to the Hardy Cans
Supressor Test - NZ Rod&Rifle

Zq

Fair enough. I never really paid much attention to some of the there reports in the mags either. And my quarrel is not with the product. We all have the right to spend our hard earned how we want and I will not hold it against someone for buying something that I would not. We each have our own preferences and priorities. If he had repaired my suppressor (at my cost) or even simply told me how to remedy the issues, then I would have walked away happy.

Maybe he has improved his service, and I expect / hope others have had better experiences. I hope so as there seem to be a lot of Hardy cans about. I cannot really comment on what others have experienced (better or worse) as I can only comment on what I have experienced.

Originally Posted by ZQLewis

Cheers timattalon, As I have only seen the insides of the Hardy and DPT in pictures and not any others I can't argue with you.
And yes true have experienced animals running towards shooters with other brands as well. I was not suggesting that it was only a Hardy thing.

However I would like to question your last comment.
My understanding was that while they did use Hardy's sound equipment and testing facilities only Rod and Rifle staff where involved with the testing and recording of data.
I will defend my decisions as to what gear I use and as the OP noted I wanted to give some support to the Hardy Cans
Supressor Test - NZ Rod&Rifle

Zq

Interesting test, I know this is more than a bit sad on Saturday to be doing Excel but I graphed the results. I consider weight vs sound reduction to be a good measure of performance so that's what I graphed. In a hunting rifle you want to get as much DB reduction for your added weight. The next would be durability (the next test they should have performed). Not much point in a light suppressor with good sound reduction if it goes bang after a few hundred rounds. Although some hunting rifles will never fire that many rounds.
Sorry I had to hack up the graph to make it up-loadable. Basically the labels work like this- no 1 is at the top of the list ie numbers 1 and 3=A-Tec 10= DPT 14= Hardy 25,26=ODL. These all put in great showings for weight vs dB reduction. For their weight the ODLs are amazing.

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Interesting test, I know this is more than a bit sad on Saturday to be doing Excel but I graphed the results. I consider weight vs sound reduction to be a good measure of performance so that's what I graphed. In a hunting rifle you want to get as much DB reduction for your added weight. The next would be durability (the next test they should have performed). Not much point in a light suppressor with good sound reduction if it goes bang after a few hundred rounds. Although some hunting rifles will never fire that many rounds.
Sorry I had to hack up the graph to make it up-loadable. Basically the labels work like this- no 1 is at the top of the list ie numbers 1 and 3=A-Tec 10= DPT 14= Hardy 25,26=ODL. These all put in great showings for weight vs dB reduction. For their weight the ODLs are amazing.

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can you go 3D and add cost on the Z axis?

NEVER MIND I FOUND THE ARTICLE

Animals will quite often run towards you with no suppressor or even a brake on the end....Just saying.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Animals will quite often run towards you with no suppressor or even a brake on the end....Just saying.

Find that with just the torch when sorting rabbits and hares. Buggers run right under the truck.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Find that with just the torch when sorting rabbits and hares. Buggers run right under the truck.

shoot em through the bloody floor of the truck then. one round outta the shotty and youllbe able to reach through the hole and grab the huas as they scoot through!

Man it's been a long time since I went rabbit shooting with lots of the little buggers running everywhere.
Your giving me withdraw symptoms.