Thread: Winchester Model 1894

@Frodo if you do go for a BLR.
Make sure 1 the magazine doesn’t rattle. 2 get someone to sort the trigger.
You can get them done so don’t believe those who say you can’t.
Then just chose your round.
Go on get one in .358
In the mean time here’s some reading
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....-thread-44138/

I hate BLRs, im not getting one

.307 in 94 if you can find one....basically a rimmed .308 with flatnose rounds...you can load what ever you like first up and in the chamber.....so all the super sleak sexy newfangled long range capable projectiles for the .308 are good to go.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

.307 in 94 if you can find one....basically a rimmed .308 with flatnose rounds...you can load what ever you like first up and in the chamber.....so all the super sleak sexy newfangled long range capable projectiles for the .308 are good to go.

Pretty much an obsolete cartridge now though. How hard is ammo or brass to get?

it comes up.....pretty easy to reload it,100 rounds of brass and a set of dies and you good for ages.....

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

.307 in 94 if you can find one....basically a rimmed .308 with flatnose rounds...you can load what ever you like first up and in the chamber.....so all the super sleak sexy newfangled long range capable projectiles for the .308 are good to go.

@Micky Duck There is a 307 L/a in river to Ranges in rangiora.
Plus he has ammo for it.
he very nearly talked me into a deal on a rifle I sort of would like at a killer price. Cant at the mo. Xmas and all that. It is very tempting but doesn't really fit into the future projects although at the price he was mentioning it might be very useful
If someone does go in for it, talk to James and say you heard about it from Craig and he was the guy talking to him about the Browning A5.
he might look after me even more lol

Originally Posted by MSL

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Nice one mate, what kind of open sites do you run on that lever?

Wild West guns aperture/ghost ring, very robust sight


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I never have got around to fitting this sight, with my 94 being top eject the scope is mounted on the side and one can use open sights as well.

I had an 1894 in .44mag for a while, here’s a few pros and cons to consider:

Pros
-they have nice handling, are well balanced and shoulder well. Probably the best rifle you can get for quick offhand shooting
-they have a great half cock when the hammer is set at the half way position. A quick thumb movement and you’re on full cock and ready to go
-capable of rapid follow up shots
-the slim lines mean they don’t get caught up in tight bush
-I’m a fan of the earlier models and dislike the later versions with crossbolt safeties, angle eject, and scope mounting options. If ever there was a rifle that should be used with open sights, it’s a winchester 94

Cons
-modern light weight bolt action carbines give them a run for their money. I have 308 in the safe. It’s got all sorts of light weight fuckery going on. Carbon stock, fluted barrel, compact scope, short duralium suppressor, and made of highly corrosion resistant materials. Good in the bush, but also capable of shots in excess of 300yd. A versatile rifle. I like bush hunting but at some point during a hunt I normally find myself in open country. Tussock river flats, broken scrub, and open tops. Country where your classic open sight lever action gets a bit out of it’s depth. The harsh reality was that the 94 didn’t really suit the sort of hunting I do, and 12 months later it was in someone else’s safe...

Originally Posted by 7.62

I had an 1894 in .44mag for a while, here’s a few pros and cons to consider:

Pros
-they have nice handling, are well balanced and shoulder well. Probably the best rifle you can get for quick offhand shooting
-they have a great half cock when the hammer is set at the half way position. A quick thumb movement and you’re on full cock and ready to go
-capable of rapid follow up shots
-the slim lines mean they don’t get caught up in tight bush
-I’m a fan of the earlier models and dislike the later versions with crossbolt safeties, angle eject, and scope mounting options. If ever there was a rifle that should be used with open sights, it’s a winchester 94

Cons
-modern light weight bolt action carbines give them a run for their money. I have 308 in the safe. It’s got all sorts of light weight fuckery going on. Carbon stock, fluted barrel, compact scope, short duralium suppressor, and made of highly corrosion resistant materials. Good in the bush, but also capable of shots in excess of 300yd. A versatile rifle. I like bush hunting but at some point during a hunt I normally find myself in open country. Tussock river flats, broken scrub, and open tops. Country where your classic open sight lever action gets a bit out of it’s depth. The harsh reality was that the 94 didn’t really suit the sort of hunting I do, and 12 months later it was in someone else’s safe...

Would the end result have been different if it had been in 30-30?. That soft tip ammo increases usable range by a lot. Still no scope though on a top eject. I guess what I am asking is putting aside views of scopes on leverguns would a 30-30 AE model with a scope on it do 90%+ what you do with your 308?

Originally Posted by Got-ya

Would the end result have been different if it had been in 30-30?. That soft tip ammo increases usable range by a lot. Still no scope though on a top eject. I guess what I am asking is putting aside views of scopes on leverguns would a 30-30 AE model with a scope on it do 90%+ what you do with your 308?

Holden make a side mounted scope mount for TE for 94's...I have shot enough deer to know they do the job

Originally Posted by Got-ya

Would the end result have been different if it had been in 30-30?. That soft tip ammo increases usable range by a lot. Still no scope though on a top eject. I guess what I am asking is putting aside views of scopes on leverguns would a 30-30 AE model with a scope on it do 90%+ what you do with your 308?

Agreed, a scoped 30/30 would do the job 9 times out of 10. So would a beat up .303 with an old tasco 4x32...

I like a rifle that is reasonably short and light, suppressed, corrosion resistant, easy to strip down, barrel easily cleaned from the breech end, shoots MOA or better, a crisp 2lb factory trigger, has a floating barrel etc. A 94 in 30/30 doesn’t tick all these boxes. A BLR would be closer to the mark, but I guess I prefer bolt actions

Originally Posted by Got-ya

Would the end result have been different if it had been in 30-30?. That soft tip ammo increases usable range by a lot. Still no scope though on a top eject. I guess what I am asking is putting aside views of scopes on leverguns would a 30-30 AE model with a scope on it do 90%+ what you do with your 308?

I would say not 90%, but at least 75%.
I have a Model 94 30-30 AE that had open sights for 30+ years and scoped for last two, I bought a bolt action 308 six years after the 30-30 for slip hunting. My model 94 doesn't group like the 308 does, which limits its effective range more than it's trajectory does.