Thread: Artificial Intelligence

Thankfully we’re not at the A.I. stage yet, just clever programming. We’ve reached an impasse with Moore’s Law but quantum computing will be the next big the game changer I think.

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings all,
There has been a lot of blather about artificial intelligence of late. In my early teens I developed an interest in science fiction and got all manner of books out of the Napier Library. A book of short stories contained one which popped into my mind the other day. It was about scientists developing a sort of flying policeman which would intervene if something stupid like killing someone. It was self replicating and equipped with some sort of weapon with lethal and non lethal settings plus what were called learning circuits, which we would call artificial intelligence. For a start all went well and lives were saved but after a while the bots decided that there were still to many killings so shot to kill each time. Next the bots decided that there were other living things being killed so hunters got zapped for sneaking up on a deer and farmers got zapped for trying to harvest their crops.
So the scientist's developed a new bot to kill the other bots but included the same learning circuits as before. All went well for a bit until the bots decided that there were other things that needed to be killed as well. The story ended there leaving the obvious conclusion to the readers imagination. This must have impressed me as I can still remember quite a bit of the story 60 years later. A story ahead of its time perhaps. Prophetic as well perhaps.
Regards Grandpamac.

yep- the world has definitely gone mad-and yep, one of the lead scientists/designers I saw on the news(if you can believe MSM) has quit and is cautioning AI development should be halted for a year to think things through.....before something goes wrong.

I can remember only a few short months ago, a thread was started concerning AI, and many derided it as 'conspiracy theory'. 'Cant remember if the thread was pulled for challenging someones beliefs. Any way here we are now and the conspiracy has come true, Quantum Computers based on rare earth chips, that can solve in four minutes a problem that would take a currently used Silicon chip based super computer ten thousand years. Means no code or security cannot be solved for nefarious purpose

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I can remember only a few short months ago, a thread was started concerning AI, and many derided it as 'conspiracy theory'. 'Cant remember if the thread was pulled for challenging someones beliefs. Any way here we are now and the conspiracy has come true, Quantum Computers based on rare earth chips, that can solve in four minutes a problem that would take a currently used Silicon chip based super computer ten thousand years. Means no code or security cannot be solved for nefarious purpose

Yep I can't see any good coming of it, plenty of people will say its the best thing ever and it will all turn to shit like everything else has.

jezz @Moa Hunter will you stop trying to have an adult conversation, especially No i told you so . . your allowed to talk about your toys like any child only

For as many years I have worked full time I have encountered artificial intelligence

It’s always been dangerous, counter productive, and more widespread than the computer kind,

The yanks have been testing use of AI in unmanned aircraft (think big drone with plenty of firepower). One of the recent tests the AI (thankfully with no live ordinance) was instructed to attack & destroy a target. Just prior to executing the mission the AI was told by the operator to abort mission. The AI did not like this, so instead it directed its attack on ….the operator.
Seriously dangerous shit!!

Frank Herbert writing in 1965 wrote in Dune:

“Men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted the men with machines to enslave them”

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Frank Herbert writing in 1965 wrote in Dune:

“Men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted the men with machines to enslave them”

Greetings @Moa Hunter and all,
I think that the quote sums up things well. When we abandon critical thinking we give up control of our destiny to an extent. The world seems awash with groups blindly following the baseless utterings of their favoured leaders (I am not picking on any one person here). Perhaps like @Gamehunter it is just me having been born in 1949.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings @Moa Hunter and all,
I think that the quote sums up things well. When we abandon critical thinking we give up control of our destiny to an extent. The world seems awash with groups blindly following the baseless utterings of their favoured leaders (I am not picking on any one person here). Perhaps like @Gamehunter it is just me having been born in 1949.
Regards Grandpamac.

hark -the sage wisdom of age born of education in the university of life.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Frank Herbert writing in 1965 wrote in Dune:

“Men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted the men with machines to enslave them”

Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will plough for those who don't. There is very little new under the sun.

So being born in 1947 ain't all that bad?

There's people with brains the size of small planets that say AI has the potential to be species threatening. That's enough to have me concerned.

In a relatively short space of time you will not be able to take any photo/video/speach/written text at face value.

Originally Posted by XR500

There's people with brains the size of small planets that say AI has the potential to be species threatening. That's enough to have me concerned.

In a relatively short space of time you will not be able to take any photo/video/speach/written text at face value.

It’s been like that since the start of the old blue forum in 1995

Although we did believe the avatar madness used

Despite all the doom sayers, I think our current versions of AI are just scaled up predictive text coding.
I don't know how it will jump to having an actual consciousness or sentient thought or what ever you want to call it.
I do think we are along way from true AI if it is indeed actually possible.
It is a concern as far as trying to discern if something is computer generated or not, but that isn't a world ending problem....yet.