Thread: Breaking a virgin in, slowley and gently

Originally Posted by ishoot10s

Great report, thanks for sharing! We're you in the Landsborough? Looks like Baker Creek or maybe Zora Canyon?

Nice try, but no cigar.

Great report Smiddy. You did it hard for the last couple nights. Did ya get a fire going?
Almost impossible to get one going in there.
They need to do a decent cull. The thar liaison group are have no idea with nanny only culls.
Hunters get what they want and it's a fuck up.

Thanks Smiddy another good report

Originally Posted by R93

Nice try, but no cigar.

Great report Smiddy. You did it hard for the last couple nights. Did ya get a fire going?
Almost impossible to get one going in there.
They need to do a decent cull. The thar liaison group are have no idea with nanny only culls.
Hunters get what they want and it's a fuck up.

No fire mate ha, didnt even try. Yep too many bulls and they all broomed to fuck, as you say nanny only culls result in this

Thanks for the write up and photos

Great write up Smiddy, like the fact you were prepared (MREs) for an 'overstay' and you had the nouse to survive.......thats one for the grandkids!!!!!!!

Wicked ! That looked tuff ! .

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Good write up and pictures. Really don't know if I could handle that environment.
Why did you take a chilly bin?

To stop things freezing!

Completely different weather to us 2 weeks prior. We were complaining about it being to hot!

Maybe I have just been lucky, but both the big bulls I have shot didn't have any bad brooming, one was only a couple rivers away from where you were and the other up in the Adams Wilderness area. What causes brooming mainly? Is it just a result of bulls fighting or also related to the terrain etc that they are living in.

Other than Shelter Hollow 3 years ago, every West Coast trip I have been on there have been at least an equal number of bulls seen as nannies. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving the green light for any Jo Blow to go on a bull culling spree, but it seems that it certainly needs to be done in certain catchments anyway. On our 4 day Nov trip we would have seen close to 100 bulls I reckon, and I've seen photos/video of mobs of 40+ bulls in the last couple years, so there could be a (CONTROLLED) thin out...

Originally Posted by The Claw

Maybe I have just been lucky, but both the big bulls I have shot didn't have any bad brooming, one was only a couple rivers away from where you were and the other up in the Adams Wilderness area. What causes brooming mainly? Is it just a result of bulls fighting or also related to the terrain etc that they are living in.

Other than Shelter Hollow 3 years ago, every West Coast trip I have been on there have been at least an equal number of bulls seen as nannies. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving the green light for any Jo Blow to go on a bull culling spree, but it seems that it certainly needs to be done in certain catchments anyway. On our 4 day Nov trip we would have seen close to 100 bulls I reckon, and I've seen photos/video of mobs of 40+ bulls in the last couple years, so there could be a (CONTROLLED) thin out...

Nannys should out number bulls 3-4 to 1.

Bulls broom their dermal ridges by like a stags rubbing trees and scrub. Thar will also rub on rock and fight. Break tips off etc, encouraged by fighting and display.
You cannot manage animals by culling one sex and juveniles.
Certain catchments would need different attention.
The whataroa and landsborough are just about on the outside (supposedly) of the thar range and culling by ground and machine is easier in those catchments due to the terrain and habits of the animals.

So this poor fella wanted to just go for a hunt and all you saw was "fresh meat" and spent the week taking away his virginity..poor bloke will never be the same!!

Good story though

Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter

So this poor fella wanted to just go for a hunt and all you saw was "fresh meat" and spent the week taking away his virginity..poor bloke will never be the same!!

Good story though

If he is in the NI and in the Army he is either 1st battalion or a pogue. Either way I doubt Smiddy was the first. Ha Ha

Originally Posted by R93

If he is in the NI and in the Army he is either 1st battalion or a pogue.

If he is 1RNZIR and a virgin then he has just signed up and is on his first day in.

Originally Posted by The Claw

Maybe I have just been lucky, but both the big bulls I have shot didn't have any bad brooming, one was only a couple rivers away from where you were and the other up in the Adams Wilderness area. What causes brooming mainly? Is it just a result of bulls fighting or also related to the terrain etc that they are living in.

Other than Shelter Hollow 3 years ago, every West Coast trip I have been on there have been at least an equal number of bulls seen as nannies. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving the green light for any Jo Blow to go on a bull culling spree, but it seems that it certainly needs to be done in certain catchments anyway. On our 4 day Nov trip we would have seen close to 100 bulls I reckon, and I've seen photos/video of mobs of 40+ bulls in the last couple years, so there could be a (CONTROLLED) thin out...

Don't forget that in your nov trips the bulls are mobbed and come from all over to those areas, that area you were in seems to pull alot of bulls in, as the next river over where we see photos of heaps of bulls, a east coast catchment does the same thing, bulls seem to turn up there at the same time of year then go back to there rutt pads - be interesting to gps them.
When you've got 7 Bulls to 10 nannies there becomes problems with them all trying to show domanance in order to get there end off

I was talking to some hunters that were in your spring area last week and a few tahr seen but not the amounts that were seen in spring

Nice read Smiddy, cool pics.

Beautiful looking country in there. Great report. I'll wait till things warm up as I've grown a tad soft.