Thread: Climate

Originally Posted by XR500

You have covered the basics well GPM.
My son lives in Berlin. Everyone lives in apartments. A lot of people grow tiny little gardens in windowsill boxes, to vary up their salads. So people here saying they don't have enough room to grow stuff....

Owning stuff that can be fixed by yourself (or look up on YT!!!) is kind of useful. Means you don't have to sign up to the throw away culture.

A good review of your living situation can be useful: Power goes off. Can you still get water? Flush the loo?? Cook?? Heat the house???

The bridge goes out. How long can you last at home till you need food/fuel??

This, and many other potentials for failures is why I believe we need REAL teachers in schools. Cloning NIMROD anyone???

Greetings @XR500,
The greatest mistake made by first time vegetable gardeners is to dig up a large area (usually in Spring) and plant the whole lot in one go. As long as they have not lost interest by Christmas this will result in a massive oversupply in late Summer, early Autumn of short life vegetables just when they are cheap. My late father was an avid vegetable gardener right up until his death. At that time he had a tiny garden barely more than 5m2. From this he provided most of his vegetables and still managed to place surplus outside the gate to his flat on Tuesdays for distribution by the ladies in the other flats.
I am somewhat between vegetable gardens currently. I have found the weeding and other work in my old garden difficult so am changing to a strip garden. The strips are 700mm wide with 500mm between cut into an existing lawn. I can mow between the strips and weeding is much easier. Currently we have carrots, bok choy, silver beet and shortly snow peas. There is space for spring plantings and more beds this season.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings @XR500,
The greatest mistake made by first time vegetable gardeners is to dig up a large area (usually in Spring) and plant the whole lot in one go. As long as they have not lost interest by Christmas this will result in a massive oversupply in late Summer, early Autumn of short life vegetables just when they are cheap. My late father was an avid vegetable gardener right up until his death. At that time he had a tiny garden barely more than 5m2. From this he provided most of his vegetables and still managed to place surplus outside the gate to his flat on Tuesdays for distribution by the ladies in the other flats.
I am somewhat between vegetable gardens currently. I have found the weeding and other work in my old garden difficult so am changing to a strip garden. The strips are 700mm wide with 500mm between cut into an existing lawn. I can mow between the strips and weeding is much easier. Currently we have carrots, bok choy, silver beet and shortly snow peas. There is space for spring plantings and more beds this season.
Regards Grandpamac.

One of the best town gardens I have seen was were the homeowner had vege beds right along the inside fences with stawberries covered with a net hanging down from the fence and frost tender stuff safe under frost cloth hung off the fence as well and then in the lawn two offset oval vege gardens filled with all manner of broadbeans, coloured silverbeet, colrabi and other interesting and attractive stuff so that it looked like flower gardens

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

nah he cant @Andygr cause he is no longer able to post/rant/spout forth ....sad that folks can ...how did moa hunter put it so well a few posts back up page??? be so far down rabbit hole and only talking to other rabbits. wood for the trees and all that.
its funny/sad really you can point out that wearing blinkers when looking into stuff goes both ways.... but if someone is wearing blinkers they still keep looking in same places for answers.
I really hope that the people who are deep in the rabbit hole can wake up and come out in the sunshine again...life is too short as it is,without being scared all the time.

It is a shame that we can no longer engage lurch in debate, as such a situation will only re-enforce any feelings of being controlled and censored he has and is the polar opposite of what is needed - hearing the other person and being able to debate a counter position

This 'After skool' vid has some very interesting info on previous climate change events https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBF0hP2_nGw
Well worth the watch

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

It is a shame that we can no longer engage lurch in debate, as such a situation will only re-enforce any feelings of being controlled and censored he has and is the polar opposite of what is needed - hearing the other person and being able to debate a counter position

the trouble is...in order to hear,you have to be willing to listen....as you said earlier,listening to other rabbits just makes you see hawks n foxes behind every cloud and tree....
sooner or later you have to be able to just let something go..... agree to disagree and move onwards.
when your mind is telling you there are bits of baby in your can of coca cola......its well past time to seek help

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

the trouble is...in order to hear,you have to be willing to listen....as you said earlier,listening to other rabbits just makes you see hawks n foxes behind every cloud and tree....
sooner or later you have to be able to just let something go..... agree to disagree and move onwards.
when your mind is telling you there are bits of baby in your can of coca cola......its well past time to seek help

I am willing to both hear and listen. I am not afraid that through someone espousing extreme ideas these ideas will infect my mind and I therefore need protecting

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I am willing to both hear and listen. I am not afraid that through someone espousing extreme ideas these ideas will infect my mind and I therefore need protecting

10000% correct.

The best cure for bad ideas is robust, open debate - not censorship.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

This 'After skool' vid has some very interesting info on previous climate change events https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBF0hP2_nGw
Well worth the watch

Greetings @Moa Hunter,
Watched the vid. There was quite a bit of science involved with some fanciful conclusions. The existence of a great southern continent called Terra Incognita was based on all the land in the Northern Hemisphere needing more in the Southern Hemisphere to balance it up. It was shown on maps long before it was actually discovered. The vid is quite right that there were many versions of the Homo genus that moved from Africa over hundreds of thousands of years but expecting the Denisovans to have developed a major civilisation in the depths of an Ice Age is likely a bit of a stretch. Descendants of the Denisovans found their way to New Guinea and Australia around 40,000 years ago which would have involved some sea travel. The genus Homo only appeared around 2 million years ago and the world has been in an Ice Age from about 2.5 million years ago. Still it was a good watch. It was not that long ago that we thought there were far fewer Homo species about.
Regards Grandpamac

It was as a cracker list of oddities from the Lurch

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings @Moa Hunter,
Watched the vid. There was quite a bit of science involved with some fanciful conclusions. The existence of a great southern continent called Terra Incognita was based on all the land in the Northern Hemisphere needing more in the Southern Hemisphere to balance it up. It was shown on maps long before it was actually discovered. The vid is quite right that there were many versions of the Homo genus that moved from Africa over hundreds of thousands of years but expecting the Denisovans to have developed a major civilisation in the depths of an Ice Age is likely a bit of a stretch. Descendants of the Denisovans found their way to New Guinea and Australia around 40,000 years ago which would have involved some sea travel. The genus Homo only appeared around 2 million years ago and the world has been in an Ice Age from about 2.5 million years ago. Still it was a good watch. It was not that long ago that we thought there were far fewer Homo species about.
Regards Grandpamac

What I understood from the vid is that the rocks in the Antartic are the same as those at the great lakes and these rocks are different to any others anywhere else on earth, potentially demonstrating that at the time of a densovian (or other) civilisation the polar land mass was a long way north.
The 'fanciful conclusions' may be truths, as the ice melts we will find out. Certainly interesting to know what those structures under the ice are. Climate change, happening since 2 billion BC

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

What I understood from the vid is that the rocks in the Antartic are the same as those at the great lakes and these rocks are different to any others anywhere else on earth, potentially demonstrating that at the time of a densovian (or other) civilisation the polar land mass was a long way north.
The 'fanciful conclusions' may be truths, as the ice melts we will find out. Certainly interesting to know what those structures under the ice are. Climate change, happening since 2 billion BC

Greetings,
The rocks may be the same but it would have been a very long time since they were in the same place. 200 million years ago all of the southern continents including India were clumped together with Antarctica in the middle. Yes it was a long way north of where it is now with one edge sitting at 40 degrees south so climate would have been quite different as it would have been a warm period. Antarctica drifted south and was close to its current position around 40 million years ago. The Denisovan people appeared in what is now Russia very roughly 250 thousand years ago and the Homo Genus appeared in Africa around 2 million years ago so, regrettably, the chance of man inhabiting Antarctica is slight at best. See if you can find a book in the Library on Planet Earth that includes its origins and development. It is a ripping yarn. The one I have in front of me is "New Zealand Historical Atlas" which covers history better than Geology but still gives an oversight.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

What I understood from the vid is that the rocks in the Antartic are the same as those at the great lakes and these rocks are different to any others anywhere else on earth, potentially demonstrating that at the time of a densovian (or other) civilisation the polar land mass was a long way north.
The 'fanciful conclusions' may be truths, as the ice melts we will find out. Certainly interesting to know what those structures under the ice are. Climate change, happening since 2 billion BC

The claim that the Antarctic landmass was anywhere close the Great Lakes during Human timelines is so outside the realms of possibility that it doesn't even bear looking into.

fixing climate change from New Zealand, is a difficult as shoving melted butter up a porcupine’s arse with a hot needle.

cant say he wasnt warned MD -a site my brother owned once is a absolutely riddled with it- 600 pages on a certain orange gent alone and its reverted to personal abuse.couple are that far down the rabbit hole i suggest theyre actually in the old board lower colon!saw the middle east video of millions of tyres on fire certainly makes you wonder if our efforts will all be in vain.

Originally Posted by Maca49

fixing climate change from New Zealand, is a difficult as shoving melted butter up a porcupine’s arse with a hot needle.

many years ago my father said to me...if the rulers of China wanted a single lamb chop for all their people we in New Zealand could slaughter every single animal in country and we still wouldnt fill the order.... so explain to me again how we making cut backs will counteract them not doing so