Thread: Climate

Amazing that there are people that truly believe that cow farts cause bad weather, and more socialism would be the solution...

Even IF it was real, more than 7 BILLION People do not give a toss about it, good for them.

As for whats coming: plenty of wildfires after plenty of cases of arson all over the mediterranean and in northern america.
Somehow the "increase" in CO2 seems to cause people to want to lay more fires?

Fearmongering has been ramped up to 200%, even more blatantly than during the height of the political lockdowns. Luckily more and more people seeing through the charade. Nz is usually 6 months behind. So we will see what happens. Sadly there are plenty of people that like to compensate their inferiority complex with calling people that arent as gullible as them names...

wouldnt mind it a bit warmer down here please

Originally Posted by Brad S

wouldnt mind it a bit warmer down here please

Same! although you have to admit last summer was amazing!

Sad to see another thread go this way

Originally Posted by akaroa1

Sad to see another thread go this way

Just sit it out to 2025.

Climate change is real. The scientists say its mostly our fault. Im not qualified to argue with them. But it seems some on here and Facebook are.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Just sit it out to 2025.

Climate change is real. The scientists say its mostly our fault.

Not all scientists

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Not all scientists

Proof by exception??

Originally Posted by Tahr

Proof by exception??

Have a listen to Leighton Smith sometime if you want another view.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Just sit it out to 2025.

Climate change is real. The scientists say its mostly our fault. Im not qualified to argue with them. But it seems some on here and Facebook are.

Patrick Moore the co founder and ex president of Greenpeace unpacked the oft quote "97% of scientists agree..." statement. Spoiler alert its less than 10%.

And remember that as a scientist if your wage/salary requires of you to tow the party line, 97% will tow the party line, cause unemployment does not sit well with them.

I see change.

What I don't see is the bouncy castle people preparing for change.

What I do see is them taxing all of us a lot more whilst not explaining to my satisfaction what its (the tax) all going to do when technologies do not exist to change what hydrocarbons do for us now. And just calling it our "obligations". Just who's obligations are they talking about???

@grandpamac I applaud you for "putting your head above the parapets "

This is a hard discussion to have on an open forum, and it is a conversation that will be ongoing.

Some guys are clearly waiting for the end of the world as we know it, really soon.
Like all the other doom merchants over history who have predicted "the end of the world is neigh".

I personally like science as it tries to give credible answers to what we can and can't see around us.
I don't think science is the answer to all out problems, but it does give us scenarios for outcomes we might expect depending on how we do or don't react to that science.

Originally Posted by akaroa1

@grandpamac I applaud you for "putting your head above the parapets "

This is a hard discussion to have on an open forum, and it is a conversation that will be ongoing.

Some guys are clearly waiting for the end of the world as we know it, really soon.
Like all the other doom merchants over history who have predicted "the end of the world is neigh".

I personally like science as it tries to give credible answers to what we can and can't see around us.
I don't think science is the answer to all out problems, but it does give us scenarios for outcomes we might expect depending on how we do or don't react to that science.

Greetings @akaroa1,
Thanks for that. I had spotted that climate change had not appeared in the various threads to date and thought it was something that needed airing. I anticipated the responses received but have a pretty thick skin so it was worth a crack.
Although the deer and other game may be resilient our roading network is not. Gabrielle all but destroyed road access to the Kawekas and 5 months later significant sections still have to be restored. Gabrielle also showed how at risk some of our other infrastructure is. Flooding in and around Napier was significant which makes me wonder what Napier will look like with the expected sea level rise. Houses I drive past on my way to town, recently constructed without thought about flooding, remain unoccupied and their eventual fate is unknown. The world and our understanding of it has changed and we must change with it or suffer the consequences. Quite agree that science can only supply the answers and it is the people and their Governments that have the key to dealing with them. Some problems only need a non asset solution.
Regards Grandpamac.

Generally we are leaving it to our children and grandchildren to deal with.

dead right,coz most are too weak to stand up to what they know to be wrong but will comply anyway for their own immediate comfort and convenience.
And too lazy to think outside their square,what they are told.
Your grandchildren won't be dealing with anything because you're giving away their freedom by your subscription to and compliance with nonsence

"Well, you did say that the grand plan will be complete by 2025"

Ah,not reading the words does make comprehension difficult
No,I said the INTENTION is to control weather worldwide by 2025.
How do you think the plan is going?

Originally Posted by Lurch

"Well, you did say that the grand plan will be complete by 2025"

Ah,not reading the words does make comprehension difficult
No,I said the INTENTION is to control weather worldwide by 2025.
How do you think the plan is going?

I think the plan is shit and should be cancelled. Do you have any influence?