Thread: Climate

Well said Sidney.
But I'll add, I'll put a box of beer on it that not one structure that got damaged in the recent floods was on land that had never been flooded before.
All this "since records began" is the sort of stuff that should be restricted to school projects.
Anyone can stand on a hill over looking a flood/silt plain and see where the water has been up to previously. I'd trust my own eyes over records any day.

Yep..

People standing in desperation on a flood plain wondering why the silt has destroyed their orchards? I sympathise... but its a flood plain. Did you seriously believe that it has never happened before? Its like having your children lecturing you on how to look after their children.

Perhaps if we didn't get our data from incompetents like Niwa, who like to be taken by surprise by everything that happens, we might have a population that understands risk a little better?

Teaching a population how to think instead of what to think would probably help as well

Originally Posted by Sidney

Yep..

People standing in desperation on a flood plain wondering why the silt has destroyed their orchards? I sympathise... but its a flood plain. Did you seriously believe that it has never happened before? Its like having your children lecturing you on how to look after their children.

Perhaps if we didn't get our data from incompetents like Niwa, who like to be taken by surprise by everything that happens, we might have a population that understands risk a little better?

I agree that in many situations the devastation (HB) was a natural consequence of where the assets were geographically, but that does not explain away the magnitude of the event or the increasing frequency of them. Anyone who is in touch with the natural environment, as hunters ought be, should to be aware of the subtle and not so subtle signs that things are not at all well. You are correct that none of us will live long enough to know the outcome but in the here and now I think we need to be taking action to mitigate the likely effects and damage. God knows how we will afford it. I am quite glad actually that I am leaving.

Originally Posted by Tahr

I agree that in many situations the devastation (HB) was a natural consequence of where the assets were geographically, but that does not explain away the magnitude of the event or the increasing frequency of them. Anyone who is in touch with the natural environment, as hunters ought be, should to be aware of the subtle and not so subtle signs that things are not at all well. You are correct that none of us will live long enough to know the outcome but in the hear and now I think we need to be taking action to mitigate the likely effects and damage. God knows how we will afford it. I am quite glad actually that I am leaving.

Generally we are leaving it to our children and grandchildren to deal with.

I think ( getting it back to hunting ) that our children and grandchildren will have a very different experience too us in the back country.
Invasive weeds and pests will move as ecosystems change with climate change.

Well,I thought I'd read about the quake in the royal commission but will have to look harder.
Info on weather manipulation however is volumous.
Should be fairly easy to find the film"The Dimming"
Or if one can search past the first page or 2 on google ,there are better search engines than google if you are looking for truth tho or outside of whats on tv.
the chemtrails,Haarpe,etc and the effects are easily researched.
The fact that none of you "outdoorsmen",farmers etc notice the chemtrails and their effects and the weird cloud formations,utterly astounds me.
I even see them in pix posted here.
Almost as astounding to me is those among you who want to sideline this info without even having a look for themselves.
I say again do none of you look up?
Why do "contrails" hang in the sky and spread wider and wider?
I thought they are just water vapour?
What?it's not on tv so it's not true?
I guess you all know cloud seeding was used in the vietnam war to try and interfere with vietcong logistics,
or that china used cloud seeding to wash it's cities before the olympic?games.
Ask anyone who's lived in china about cloud seeding/weather manipulation
tahrs quip about them needing to hurry up sums up the level of thought given by most.
We've all seen how readily just about entire populations do what they are told with no critical thought given,
What do you think the purpose of weather manipulation is?
Is it done to improve our lives or is it being done to forward an agenda?
Why the hesitance to consider weather manipulation?
Some of you are quite happy to accept "greta science" but ignore what happens in front of your faces.
When you don't have all the information you can't make an informed decision.
Your uninformed decisions affect all the rest of us.

Originally Posted by Lurch

Well,I thought I'd read about the quake in the royal commission but will have to look harder.
Info on weather manipulation however is volumous.
Should be fairly easy to find the film"The Dimming"
Or if one can search past the first page or 2 on google ,there are better search engines than google if you are looking for truth tho or outside of whats on tv.
the chemtrails,Haarpe,etc and the effects are easily researched.
The fact that none of you "outdoorsmen",farmers etc notice the chemtrails and their effects and the weird cloud formations,utterly astounds me.
I even see them in pix posted here.
Almost as astounding to me is those among you who want to sideline this info without even having a look for themselves.
I say again do none of you look up?
Why do "contrails" hang in the sky and spread wider and wider?
I thought they are just water vapour?
What?it's not on tv so it's not true?
I guess you all know cloud seeding was used in the vietnam war to try and interfere with vietcong logistics,
or that china used cloud seeding to wash it's cities before the olympic?games.
Ask anyone who's lived in china about cloud seeding/weather manipulation
tahrs quip about them needing to hurry up sums up the level of thought given by most.
We've all seen how readily just about entire populations do what they are told with no critical thought given,
What do you think the purpose of weather manipulation is?
Is it done to improve our lives or is it being done to forward an agenda?
Why the hesitance to consider weather manipulation?
Some of you are quite happy to accept "greta science" but ignore what happens in front of your faces.
When you don't have all the information you can't make an informed decision.
Your uninformed decisions affect all the rest of us.

Well, you did say that the grand plan will be complete by 2025

Generally we are leaving it to our children and grandchildren to deal with.

dead right,coz most are too weak to stand up to what they know to be wrong but will comply anyway for their own immediate comfort and convenience.
And too lazy to think outside their square,what they are told.
Your grandchildren won't be dealing with anything because you're giving away their freedom by your subscription to and compliance with nonsence

"Well, you did say that the grand plan will be complete by 2025"

Ah,not reading the words does make comprehension difficult
No,I said the INTENTION is to control weather worldwide by 2025.
How do you think the plan is going?

For those seeking to understand how some people think . . .https://www.apa.org/news/press/relea...iracy-theories

Is it not interesting how some people's ideology is based on such a flimsy foundation that they have to use derogatory terms like "conspiracy theorist" on people that express their doubts?

Interesting, one question who decides whats a conspiricy theory and what isnt. Ufos were a conspiricy theory but it we believe the current news....

Originally Posted by Lurch

"Well, you did say that the grand plan will be complete by 2025"

Ah,not reading the words does make comprehension difficult
No,I said the INTENTION is to control weather worldwide by 2025.
How do you think the plan is going?

I think the plan is shit and should be cancelled. Do you have any influence?

Originally Posted by Tahr

I agree that in many situations the devastation (HB) was a natural consequence of where the assets were geographically, but that does not explain away the magnitude of the event or the increasing frequency of them. Anyone who is in touch with the natural environment, as hunters ought be, should to be aware of the subtle and not so subtle signs that things are not at all well. You are correct that none of us will live long enough to know the outcome but in the here and now I think we need to be taking action to mitigate the likely effects and damage. God knows how we will afford it. I am quite glad actually that I am leaving.

You cannot change it. You can only cost the lives of those on hospital waiting lists, provide us with a poorer standard of education, provide a sop to those who think that batteries create less of an issue that existing supply chains do, and produce an increasingly larger group of poor people. We will continue to delude those children coming out of an already substandard education system with no grasp of statistical integrity, mathematical skill or critical thinking abilty; that we in some way are going to change an outcome that we cannot change, for no quantifiable benefit from the real costs on the most vulnerable in our societies.

Show me the outcome that will be achieved for the resources that are going to dedicated to it.

Originally Posted by Sidney

You cannot change it. You can only cost the lives of those on hospital waiting lists, provide us with a poorer standard of education, provide a sop to those who think that batteries create less of an issue that existing supply chains do, and produce an increasingly larger group of poor people. We will continue to delude those children coming out of an already substandard education system with no grasp of statistical integrity, mathematical skill or critical thinking abilty; that we in some way are going to change an outcome that we cannot change, for no quantifiable benefit from the real costs on the most vulnerable in our societies.

Show me the outcome that will be achieved for the resources that are going to dedicated to it.

The outcome that I was referencing was mitigating consequences of climate change, not the climate itself. Shifting properties and towns, bolstering protection, safeguarding vital infrastructure etc. Learning from others (the terrible fires on the continent and Canada) - learn and mitigate now.