Thread: Dumped 17 pointer

Originally Posted by Apollo

Unfortunately in this day and age a young fella asking for help has about as much chance of being called a snowflake as receiving any.

....Pull the other one - if you want to be taken seriously; you need to prove yourself!!!! When did that ever change? No issue with asking for help - but for F***sake do it respectfully and be prepared to accept advice & take it on-board.

Originally Posted by Nickoli

....Pull the other one - if you want to be taken seriously; you need to prove yourself!!!! When did that ever change? No issue with asking for help - but for F***sake do it respectfully and be prepared to accept advice & take it on-board.

I agree with you. But I never experienced the hostility to youth that I see these days. Sells newspapers in the digital age I guess.

I have shot 7 deer in the 2 and half years of hunting them, 3 stags and 4 spikers. To date I have only taken the meat and apart from the first deer I shot I have carried the rest out whole even if it's taken 5 and a half hours to do it. I haven't come across a single head that I have found worthy of keeping but if I ever get a good one I will take it to the taxidermist to get mounted but it will have to be a good one.

Have to agree with comments made by Wingman and 300wsm for life. We were all beginners at some stage and we've all made mistakes, life is about learning. Personally I've left some good heads behind meaning to recover at some time,getting meat out is my priority. Its amusing how some of these heads have been taken by others before I've managed to get back to them.

Originally Posted by woods223

Have to agree with comments made by Wingman and 300wsm for life. We were all beginners at some stage and we've all made mistakes, life is about learning. Personally I've left some good heads behind meaning to recover at some time,getting meat out is my priority. Its amusing how some of these heads have been taken by others before I've managed to get back to them.

Yup, me too. I hunt on my own mostly and I'm 51 and not up to massive carries by any means. There are two proper good heads secreted away, one in each island, that I will retrieve in time with the help of my young 'uns. Faced with the prospect of leaving meat for a head, I'll take the max load of meat I can handle every time, because the head will still be there in 2 years time. Well, not if Eagle Eye @Tahr and his Dawg are around.

Good attitude, presentation and awareness are all a young person needs, any person, when it comes to asking for help. I try and set it up beforehand, create an expectation in advance. Has worked very well for me in the past. I've recovered several deer out of the Raukumaras with the help of a local cockie, who I think was glad of the company and a bit of adventure. Twice on the quad and trailer, once with the little jetboat. I'll say this though, the quad bike rides over the river cobbles was the worst and most scary brown trouser rides on any kind of machinery I've ever had.... never ever again. All the way I'm thinking I'm gonna get bounced off this, no helmet.... oh the wife is gonna be SO CROSS.

Oh well, still here.

My first deer was 3hrs of the road, both me and a mate had no idea on what to do next. After working out how to gut it we tried to carry this deer over our shoulders, then dragged it with not much luck. We were both stuff , we cut in half and got of the ground up into a tree.
Next morning we returned with a pack so another 2.5hrs in cut it up and put it in a pack and carried it all out.
Twenty odd years ago you didn't have a forum to ask what to do or uncle google and was freak all deer around

Tilly still loves you Mate...and she is a good judge of character.

I for one thank you for posting this @Tahr, this thread was on my mind all day at work and it had me deep in thought which is not something I do often

Even reading the stories had my own memories flooding back of trying to drag roll and push my first large red all of about 20 meters through the bush and being totally burned out knowing all to well it took me over two hours to get to the location I made the shot and I wasnt going to be home for dinner..

It is interesting to me how different we all are here but also very much the same.
I know and have hunted/shot with many people who follow my school of thought but also with guys like yourself.
You clearly felt so strongly about the chap not taking home a memento head yet neglected to even mention the massive waist of meat left by this guy until prompted in about the 6th post.

While I may not be any closer to understanding the mind of trophy hunters and guys that blow a small house deposit on safaris shooting African beasts I dont intend to try and stop them from doing what they do. That would make me no better than a vegan PETA supporting cyclist. NO body wants to be that guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8

Wingman as a meat hunter I have the utmost respect for you leaving that behind.

Heads mounted don't impress me, antlers don't impress me. I drove up to a guys big barn like shed in Southland and he had decorated the entire front of it aboe the doors with maybe 50 bare skulls and antlers. This impressed me.

Ive shot 131 deer over the last 10 years (10 years in March) and kept 6 Red and 4 Fallow heads.

I edited the pic as I feel it will just anger more people, instead I replaced it with some light comedy. Lets refocus our anger towards the people that actually deserve it..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaR9_loA2ig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psTQI_eKmWk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNCv-BggLoY

In Post #30 - his first on this thread - Wingman insulted trophy hunters deliberately by accusing them of doing it to feel "manly'. Then later was asking everyone to stop insulting people who only shoot for meat, even though the only person who had insulted anyone was him.

Now, I have never in my life come across the carcass of a stag that was minus its head with no meat taken. Every hunter I know who would have a head mounted will take the head and the meat, and do a hell of a lot more hard work getting home than any meat shooter. If you want to be the complete hunter, you have to take the meat and the head.

A meat shooter just reduces an animal to food. This was the worst insult the Maori had. But a man who understands a trophy head gets the meat and the head, and a deeper meaning.

Not realy sure where this is going but .
Your comment CH got my half brain working in regards to seeing or finding dead deer minus only their head.
Over many years I have been in the position to see quite a few indeed with only their head gear removed. There were a lot of so called cullers who if the opportunity popped up would be damn quick to drop a decent head,remove the tail,head and carry on,done it myself on occasion.
Waste never popped into ones nut,never. On many occasions also a culler would remove a cracker head then hang it in the fork of a tree for recovery at a later date,then forget to or later say na..bugger the head and leave it.
That sort of carry on was going on CH when you were a hell of a lot younger,hence why you don't find any today eh.
On the whole cullers were only after tokens and maybe one back steak or hind wheel for a change of diet.
I'm am surprised that other worldly things don't pop up on private land.

Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway

If you want to be the complete hunter, you have to take the meat and the head.

Hard being the complete hunter eh CH ?

Originally Posted by doinit

Hard being the complete hunter eh CH ?

Just me and you buddy.